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the great tribulation is the wrath of God.. It is Gods answer to sin. he has been patient. The day of the lord is God putting an end to the great tribulation..

Do me a favor please. don;t just tell me something did not happen. Post the passage, and explain what happened. And again, Please look at my last post. and show where I erred. You saying I am wrong does not make you right..

I saw nothing to support this view. Can you first look at my view in post "post 86" here I will repost it. can you show me where I erred. Your friend ran away and did not say anything, will you?? “Know therefore and understand, That from the going forth of the command To restore and build...

Um no, Satan goes with all power when he is cast our. and spreads his wrath on this earth. That is part of what causes the great tribulation. His power is put to an end AT the second comming, when he is bound for 1000 years.

Matt 24 : 9 - 13 is not even during the trib period. it is the time period of the last days. or as many call it birth pangs We are witnessing these events today as we speak.. all of them.. so this does not disprove pre-trib. nor does it support it. which is my argument, much of the arguments...

and we know this is not eternity future, it is while still on this present earth. Because there is still sin. Zech 14. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the...

he won;t even discuss it. He is on attack mode.

um no, You can not mix literal and figurative interpretation of events God says will happen. Prophecy is for those who are alive and witness those events. No one ca witness a figurative event that will never happen.. and determine it is God who fortold these things You can not intertwine...

Nope. even jesus himself spoke that he would return 29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear...

Actually no we do not. we just have to put 2 peter 3 in context and when it will occur. who do you talk to. I have never heard such nonsense.. 2 peter speaks of the total destruction of the heavens and the earth as we know it. we see it in rev 21 21 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth...

actually he added nothing But you continue to ignore. twist and reject scripture which shows you are wrong. because of your hatred for a group of people.. Its on you dude.. You still have not even looked at Dan 9.. Take the log out of your eye before you try to remove the spec out of your...

But it all has not been fulfilled. The destruction of the city did not happen in the 490 year time period The city is left desolate to this day, not fitting the 70 week time period there has been no confirmation of any covenant for 1 week and there has been no abomination which causes desolation.

I showed this in my previous post. the first 69 weeks ended when Messiah entered jerualem on a Donkey as prophesied (remember Jesus over and over said it was not his time, He knew his own timing of when he would come, and how. Immediately after this, Christ was cut off almost 4 decades later...

Agree to here Nope. in Romans 11 Paul definitely separates the true There is us (gentiles, or the unnatural branches) then their is them: and they are Natural branches, Blinded in part, will be made jealose by the fact God has given what was theirs to the gentiles (his church) and will one...

I am sorry brother. But for me to think God is going to resurrect me, and leave Abraham, David, Daniel, and other great God fearing jews in the grave intol the tribulation is over or some other date I will not and can not buy. Actually that would be the tribulation saints, who died during the...

so a person who wants to kill people. because it is what they are. we should treat them the same? How about a person that wants to take everything for him or herself and not share anything with anyone. Or a person who does everything they can to make themself look good at work. and make all...

Then God is a liar Your right. They were. But their mistake was not admitting they needed saved first Jesus will rule in Jerusalem. Nothin you can say will Change that

But your not You need to dig further You don’t make a doctrine based on one passage. A true bible student would know this

That’s always been true. But that’s not what this is about Well it does not say god will never restor Israel either. Because god would be proven to be a liar is many prophecy’s.

I showed you not only in the prophecy Jesus read but also in Daniel 9. A post you still have not responded to. Or shown my my error (because you can’t I know it’s ok) Well there is your first error in interpreting prophecy The prophet never says when Jesus will begin any ministry. Or that he...