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“Know therefore and understand, That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem Until Messiah the Prince, There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; The street shall be built again, and the wall, Even in troublesome times. The start time of this is in Neh 2. when...

Jacobs trouble has not even happened yet.. And it is not about God taking a kingdom away. it is about a time of great tribulation, in which Jacob (Israel) will be saved out from it. and this time will cause this same jacob (isreal) to repent. Jer 30 Alas! For that day is great, So that none is...

It being future does not make it a pretrib position. So their is your first error. If you would like me to prove it, I will be more than happy to.. How about a time in the OT where God listed a series of events that were sequential in order.. Yet there is even today 1000's of years between one...

sorry, I was trying to get you to read the passage. Here is what it says in the passage. 13 “As it is written in the Law of Moses, all this disaster has come upon us; yet we have not made our prayer before the Lord our God, that we might turn from our iniquities and understand Your truth...

No he was not asking this. Yes he knew how w long it would be 70 years) and he knew it was at the end of that 70 years so he was doing what was required How did Daniel know any of this. Where did he find this information of why god did what he did and that they needed to confess?

so this is your proof that I was wrong? lol.. whatever dude, again you just exposed yourself.

1. I am not a pretribber.. so you again just exposed yourself..

Dan 9? Your right, the church is not mentioned. but that does not prove pre-trib is in error.

the issue with this, is in kings. the spirit is speaking first person singular. so he is an induvidial spirit And he is the one who told the lying spirit. to the prophets.. The lying spirit itself is not representative of the beast out of the sea..

Not realy. Its not apples to apples. its apples to oranges. Many people who were gay, or transgender have come to Christ and realised their mistake. sadly many have went through these operations and now have to suffer that for the rest of their life because the idiot doctors instead of...

continue, there was more..

ok, I just read it. and stopped laughing. now time to get serious prove anything I said in those posts wrong.

No. It does not expose my theology it exposes your pride. I am trying to get you to think logically and to calm down. and as we see. you are still at it. and will not relent from your silly attacks on your brothers i,and sisters in christ. Oh this should be good.. You know what I hold...

I am just stating what I see You one argument was that Dan 9 does not mention the church. and that proves premill is wrong. This is a false application not only of daniel 9. but the argument itself. and does not address what the person who uses it (I will be honest. I have never heard a...

You tell me since you seem to want to discuss doctrines of a group of people. and not the word.. Do you know a premill who is not a dispensation? and does it even matter

the 70 weeks prophecy are the answers to Daniel's prayer. do you know what Daniel prayed? Do you know who and where he was praying for. do you know why he was praying?

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed...

Ah, I see, semantics. yes there was no vision per say. Gabriel just told Daniel what will happen before the things Gabriel said would occur will come to place.

Can't do this without looking at the prayer daniel was offering up to get context .. since gabriel was sent to answer daniels prayer

I believe 1 thess 4 will occur before Christs return and regn on earth. which makes me a pre-millenial if we are to try to put a label on what I believe. but lets not talk labels. lets talk about what the word says