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You missed it. You were to be busy playing games with the ....rollo. See reply #199. Stranger

You will think what you want to think. Your hatred of calvinism cannot allow you to have a conversation on election. Any thing that tends to agree with what you call calvinism, you reject. And what is 'mainline Christianity'? Is that what you believe? Of course it is. You are so...

I complain when I am misinterpreted and misrepresented. As Nancy did. I have no problems admitting my theology. I have problems being misrepresented. Stranger

Yes, you said a mouthful, though you don't know it. You said, "All I know is God is love". That is all you know. And God is much more than that, but that is all you know, and worse, that is all you want to know, and to hell with any other information. Stranger

If you reread #194, the sentence before "you have to keep earning it", you will see that I was talking to GodsGrace and said, "This goes hand in hand with your belief". Stranger

You misinterpreted and misrepresent what I said. Stranger

No, see my reply #190. It doesn't matter what I say to you about Calvinism, you are on a crusade and will not listen. I ask you to consider this. Go back as far as you can and honestly ask yourself, why do I hate the doctrine of election so much? I know you have said because it makes God...

First of all, you totally ignore the individual aspect of the children of promise and election that (Rom. 9:7-13) proves. It is not speaking to Israel as a nation chosen but individuals who make up that nation. Thus "Jacob have loved, but Esau have I hated". (Rom. 9:13) I do so dare. And...

All of your 7 points are good and true. But, they don't disprove God's election. All of your 'whosoever' verses simply emphasize the importance of mans will being involved in his salvation. Just like the later part of (John 6:37). "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him...

What is TTYTT? Actually, individually is exactly what (Rom. 9:6-13) is addrdessing. "...the are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, in Isaac shall thy seed be called....For the children being not yet born, neither...

No. You have erred with the context. The context goes back to (Rom. 9:14) "What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. " Why did Paul ask this? Because he just made the statement in (Rom. 9:8-13) as to who the 'children of promise' are. And he showed that...

With a homogeneous society, commonsense would be more common. With a non-homogeneous society, totally mixed up with race, ideology, reliegion, etc., commonsense is nonexistent. You can't make the outward circumstances totally different and expect a common to grow out of it. Stranger

No. Imputed righteousness was as true in the Old Testament as it is in the New. God saw Noah righteous. Not that Noah was righteous.(Gen. 6:8, 7:1) Abraham believe God and it was imputed to him for righteousness. (Gen. 15:6) And God was not a monster for destroying all mankind in the...

But I am not representing Calvinism. I am just speaking to 'election'. Can't you forget Calvinism and just address 'election'? Stranger

Therefore God is not a monster for destroying all those He did in the flood. Understand we are told that Noah found 'grace' in the eyes of God. (Gen. 6:8) And in (Gen. 7:1) God says, "...for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation." This means Noah needed grace, and...

Those that are 'of God' God has known them in eternity past from the foundation of the earth. (Ehp. 1:4) And so has chosen them long before the foundation of the earth to place them in Christ. The others, who God also knows are not of Him, He has not chosen to place in Christ. Those who...

You said, "He can do whatever He wants to do." And, "He has declared this just". But do you believe God is just and a God of love in doing this? Stranger

No, not at all. I just wish you would forget the Calvinist thing. Election is not God looking down on earth and randomly choosing this or that one for heaven or hell. Election does concern the individual, because God knows the individual. God knows those who are of Him on the earth, even...

But, was God just in destroying millions of people on the earth by the flood? Was He a God of love when He did it? Stranger

I am not arguing Calvinism. Do you reject (John 6:37) because of Calvinism? What did I say concerning (John 6:37) that is wrong? Stranger