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He didn't have to use those exact words to refer to that time period. So, do you think 2 Thessalonians 2 is related to Satan's little season or not? I thought you indicated that you did.

Of course. I have made that same point to pre-tribs may times on this forum. I sometimes ask them if they think that 2 Thessalonians 1:10 describes something that will happen when we meet Jesus in the air because if they acknowledge that then they should see that Paul said that Jesus will take...

Yes, it does. Peter said so. 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 11 Therefore, since all...

Those who are "without" (outside) the city are in the lake of fire at that point (Rev 20:15, Rev 21:8), not still running around on the earth.

I asked my question in post #91 before you asked yours in post #95. You never answered the question I asked in post #91. All I'm asking, since you said "It has been going on since the apostate papacy" in relation to Satan's little season, is when did that begin?

Are you Amil or Premil? If you're Amil, I'm wondering if you see a connection between the binding of Satan and the restraint of lawlessness, considering that Paul relates "the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception” with the loosing of the...

I don't understand what you're trying to say. It's clear to me that Paul said the dead in Christ will first be resurrected and then right after that they, along with those who are alive and remain, will be caught up together at the same time to meet the Lord in the air.

Can you answer my question first? I asked you previously when do you think Satan's little season began when you said: "It has been going on since the apostate papacy.". So, when did the apostate papacy (and Satan's little season) begin?

It says that the resurrected dead in Christ will be caught up together with those who are alive and remain to meet the Lord in the air, so that implies that they are caught up together at the same time. Are you trying to claim that "we which are alive and remain" being caught up and the dead in...

What point are you intending to make by posting these verses as it relates to what I said?

No problem. Just wanted to see if maybe I was missing something about what you believed. I knew you weren't pre-trib, but I wondered if you still somehow saw 1 Thess 4:14-17 and 1 Thess 5:2-3 as different events.

What is your basis for believing that? Do you believe the following verse will occur when what is described in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 occurs? 2 Thessalonians 1:10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony...

Those are describing the pope or the papacy as if the pope was God/Christ or equal with God/Christ. So, do you relate the time of the papacy to Satan's little season then? I'm trying to figure out what your understanding is of Satan's little season and if you think it's referenced in 2...

So, when would you consider that to have begun exactly then?

@Earburner I see that you liked the post above. This person is pre-trib and is claiming that 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 is a different event from 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3. I know you're not pre-trib, so I'm wondering if you misunderstood what he's saying here?

I edited my post, but it looks like you responded before I did. So, I'll just repeat here what I added to my post. Do you believe the following verse will occur when what is described in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 occurs? 2 Thessalonians 1:10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His...

I agree. Nope. You said before that the second coming comes later after what is described above. No. Can you not see the explicit mention of "the coming of the Lord" in that passage? There is no indication whatsoever that Paul changed the topic at this point. Unfortunately, the inappropriate...

Terrible. Some people here don't even think about the ramifications of their beliefs. Sad to see.

No, the second coming of Christ is described in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:3. 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until...

It addressed Amillennialism in general and I am an Amillennialist. You misrepresented Amillennialism with your post. What don't you understand about that? And you posted it as if you agreed with it. If you don't agree with it, then don't post it as if you do. That is not what was indicated in...