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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    In part. Not completely. Why are you willing to twist the Word to make it say what you want it to say? Do you have no conscience? That has been God's plan for around 2,000 years. It was already happening in Paul's day. But that relates to the Jews who were blinded, not to Jewish believers. You...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    TODAY IS NOT GOD'S GATHERING OF ISRAEL

    We don't have a spirit body inside of our flesh body. You have no idea of what you're talking about. We are made up of body, soul and spirit. Our natural body that we have now, which Paul said is corruptible, dishonorable, weak and mortal will be changed at the last trumpet into a spiritual body...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    There were more than a few believers in the first fold made up of Jewish believers. There were enough believers to the point where Paul could declare that God had not cast away the Israelite people. Romans 11:1 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Look at the verses preceding that. He was talking in particular about unbelieving Jews like the scribes and Pharisees there, not all Jews. There was a remnant of Jews who did receive Him as Lord and those were His sheep of the first fold. In John 10 Jesus said He had sheep and the only sheep He...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    This is 100% utter nonsense. This is Jesus speaking: Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Jesus said that He was sent "unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.". So, the first fold of sheep are Israelites, not Gentiles...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Nowhere, of course. We are constantly having to refute things that people just make up in their imaginations on this forum.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Exactly. This is why it describes silence in heaven at the opening of the seventh seal. Heaven will be empty at that point because Jesus, the souls of the dead in Christ, and His angels will have all descended from heaven.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Yes, he thinks Revelation 19:11-21 describes a 3rd coming of Christ and he believes there are two raptures, which is obviously complete nonsense.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    A recent exchange with a reasoning AI pertaining to Matthew 24:15-30

    Which AI is it? Ask the AI if it thinks it's reasonable to conclude that Luke 21:20-24a is not a parallel passage to Matthew 24:15-22 and Mark 13:14-20. And ask it if it's reasonable to conclude that only Luke would have recorded Jesus's answer to the disciples' first question and not Matthew...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    The symbolic woman does not sit on literal things, so it's not referring to literal mountains. Revelation 17:1 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2 with...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 13:12 says "everyone on earth, will be forced to worship the beast", does that mean everyone on earth needs to repent? (refuse to repent?)

    This is utter nonsense and tells us all we need to know about your lack of spiritual discernment. You just make things up. Your beliefs are based on your imagination. You cannot be taken seriously.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    I never said that. Douggg did. Please edit your post to reflect this.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    TODAY IS NOT GOD'S GATHERING OF ISRAEL

    Exactly. That will occur at the last trumpet. At that time our natural body will be changed into an incorruptible, glorious, powerful and immortal spiritual body, as Paul indicated. Not in the way that the righteous dead will. As Paul indicated, the dead in Christ will be raised and their...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    You mean it took a lot of work for you to find a way to deny what Ephesians 5:22-33 and other scriptures clearly indicate, which is that the church is the bride of Christ.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    TODAY IS NOT GOD'S GATHERING OF ISRAEL

    Paul indicated that the incorruptible body that we will have will also be glorious and powerful. 1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    LOL. I know you don't care what the original Greek manuscript says, but the Greek word can refer to an individual person or to many people or to mankind in general. So, just because it is translated there as "a man" does not settle the debate. The number of the beast is the number of mankind...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Agree. The pre-trib rapture theory is a big joke. It couldn't be more clear that the rapture is post-trib, as you showed using scripture (pre-trib cannot be shown using scripture in any way, shape or form). The elect, according to scripture, are those in the church. But, pre-tribs try to say...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 13:12 says "everyone on earth, will be forced to worship the beast", does that mean everyone on earth needs to repent? (refuse to repent?)

    Buddy, are you even trying to see the point? You lied and said they don't believe in the trinity. Why do you have no conscience about lying? You need to spend less time worrying about their false doctrines and more time figuring out why you think lying is okay. When did I say I wanted to...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    That nonsense doesn't deserve any other response beyond hysterical laughter. Please let us know if you ever decide to get serious.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 13:12 says "everyone on earth, will be forced to worship the beast", does that mean everyone on earth needs to repent? (refuse to repent?)

    You are completely wrong. I just don't like to see anyone being falsely accused. As a Christian, you should feel the same, but the fact that you are willing to make false accusations against others makes me wonder about you. It matters to tell the truth and not lie that they don't believe in...