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1. It is good we agree it is not about water baptism. 2. I can't say I agree Nicodemus had been born of the Spirit. No one was "born again" until after Jesus was glorified. There were "just" men whose spirits were "perfected" when the New Covenant was finally inaugurated, and Nicodemus was...

Just sayin'. LOL

LOL! This right here explains so much!

I thought you said "dittoes". I was looking forward to not having to see your error-riddled, confused, completely lost, posts anymore. I have nothing to talk about with you. You have proven you don't read carefully, you don't respond to all of my points, you are only in the conversation to...

Sounds good. I won't be repeating myself.

@robert derrick I'm not going to keep repeating myself. Your "objections" are baseless and empty and no one who reads carefully would make them.

Too many errors to even start addressing--especially knowing you won't even read.

@Hidden In Him Romans 3 19Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. 20For by works of the law no human beingc will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes...

Actually, you can't say "dittoes"--you're not thorough--you barely address half of the things I say, and you've admitted (what was already obvious--you constantly misunderstand what is being argued) you don't really read carefully (eg, you hadn't read the Scriptures I'd cited).

1. Thanks for the clarification--only afterward I thought "maybe he meant the ones I cited". 2. You have admitted you're not reading what I'm saying carefully. That's not a good way of communicating. The views they traditionally held were based on Scripture, so knowing Scripture can lead to...

Why do I have to keep repeating myself over and over and over? I don't do that. You can go back and read. What I'm saying is that you're not going to understand Romans 2-11 unless you know what Paul is responding to--you have to at least be acquainted with the Scriptures, but it helps to...

robert derrick, I don't think we have anything to talk about--I already get that you have your view, and it's a view you're not interested in changing. In my view, you're very far from understanding Scriptural truth, and I'm not interested with the busy work of issuing corrections to all of your...

I was using classifications that seemed to align with the way it seemed you were classifying the different Laws (because you mentioned "ceremonial", etc)--I already believed that if Jesus had transgressed the Law He wouldn't have qualified as sinless.

1. "Not under Law but under Grace" refers to means of service. God's servants once presumably were to serve by observing the Law, now they are no longer under the jurisdiction of the Law but they are under the jurisdiction of the Spirit of Grace. 2. Law commanded love for neighbor as self and...

You need to reread my argument because you clearly missed my point and did not respond to it. 1. Gentiles were never under Torah. 2. Both believing Jews and Gentiles are "under Grace". His Word is the Tanakh--you've proven my point by not knowing the most basic thing about what I was saying...