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That passage of scripture from Peter had been referred to several times over the course of this thread, being used to "prove" Jesus went to either paradise or hell, or the paradise side of hell, whatever that means. First, as far as I'm concerned, paradise isn't in hell, but in heaven, and...

But back to phoneman's original question, which everyone seems to want to avoid. Is Jesus suffering eternally? If not, what are the implications for the atonement?

What did Jesus mean when He said that the person could be destroyed both body and soul?

Definition... What is Propaganda? - Definition, Techniques, Types & Examples Propaganda is a powerful means of communication often used to negatively manipulate or shape others' ideas, causes, or beliefs. Can you explain how the above presentation, or any Adventist teaching, negatively...

I I agree, they have not yet ceased to exist. An individual is not yet destroyed utterly until the lake of fire. Meanwhile we sleep, until one or other of the 2 resurrections.

You mistakenly believe Moses was writing his own words from his own limited intellectual and spiritual understanding. You are denying the inspiration of the OT. INSPIRATION.. THE Holy Spirit... Said, man became a living soul. A living being. That living being was given an opportunity to live...

Hello my friend, good to see you. Interesting isn't it. As the world gets more and more complicated and confusing, and we Christians get caught up in politics and arguing over non essential issues, being back to basics, as you quoted, becomes the only failsafe option.

Is that it? That's all you've got? Just insults and blanket denials of the obvious? DESTRUCTION KJV Psalms 145:20 20 The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy. KJV Psalms 101:8 8 I will early destroy all the wicked of the land; that I may cut off all wicked...

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Not saying he created anything. But if man knows how to propagate a certain species with a blend of another species to make a new genus or sub species, how much more a far greater intellect like Satan's? Yes, plants are for healing and food. Do you think Satan likes the idea that man can heal...

I agree Jesus was/is sinless. But we are not justified by how He lived, we are justified by how He died. We are saved by His blood... Not His life. You're is Catholic doctrine and is why the Catholic view of salvation is so dangerous and heretical. Catholics believe they're are saved by a...

To all who maintain the spirit/soul (allowing for confusion here) is eternal and doesn't die. KJV Romans 2:7 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: If we already had it, why seek it? KJV 1 Corinthians 15:53 53 For this...

We aren't saved by the sinlessness of Jesus... We are saved by His DEATH.

Refer here also... Just what I've been saying above... https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/was-jesus-eternally-tormented.51701/

What does the bible say is 'the wages of sin'. What did Jesus endure in order to take upon Himself the punishment for sin that was ours? Answer those questions honestly. Then explain how conscious eternal torment relates to death and Calvary.

And despite reading Genesis 2:7 several times, you still don't get it.

Your deliberate choice to remain ignorant and determined effort to compartmentalize true Christians as heretics and cultists simply because they believe scripture (which I quoted at length), the same scriptures you apparently reject, reveals a motive devoid of true Christian learning and desire...

@Maro I have been a Christian for 46 years, and are in reluctant but frank agreement with your view of the parlous state of the Christian church at present, and it is regrettable that your personal interaction with Christians as you grew up, and your familial circumstances contributed to your...

Okay, so this is a shade off topic, but 1844 is one of the most prophetically reliably time prophecies in scripture, and once studied, cannot be refuted. It's based on the following... KJV Daniel 8:14 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be...

Satan has had 6000 years to learn the science and nature of botany, biology, and human behavior. He knows how to manipulate, propagate, blend and distort creation in order to deceive and destroy man. Not all things we see in the world today are from the Creator's direct action. Poisons, toxins...