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  1. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    You are getting this from the KJV. Imaginative, it means you are thinking.....exploring.....interpreting meanings beyond the scripture. I am not being critical. The Apostles and maybe Christ were referencing texts that were lost. If the original Book of Enoch was around it would have blown...
  2. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    Not being rude.....I want you to find the prison aspect. A topic like this, if you are like me, you have to keep the biblical separate from the extra biblical information. I go with the simple understanding "worthless fellows" You have a lot of information there.....which is good. That will...
  3. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    Are you talking about Sheol? Belial is a Hebrew word "used to characterize the wicked or worthless". The etymology of the word is often understood as "lacking worth" You have to watch your translations on this topic. The KJV tries to Christianize the Old Testament by sneaking in the devil or...
  4. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    Ya the symbolisms cross.
  5. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    I am a theologian….life long formal education in 5 countries and I go to about a dozen churches several denominations. If you want a target, my favorite is the Holy Ghost churches. Go ahead and say something bad about the Holy Spirit....not going to hurt, you are going to Hell anyway. The Lord...
  6. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    All I can say is do a study on Judaism. They definitely believe in Yahweh. And there are different sects of Judaism today and some can get interesting.
  7. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    Destroyed in this world….yes But still no place of an eternal fiery torment. Still nowhere, where God threatened them with a eternal fiery torment for sinning. For someone to go to the place of eternal fiery torment, they have to be judged there by Yeshua. Now Yahweh could have had a judgment...
  8. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    As you have said Sheol is represented in different ways in the Old Testament….They worshipped Yahweh but as far as spiritual concepts they were vague on that. As far as what people say that is different, I could not care less. The fact is a fiery place of torment is not represented in the Old...
  9. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    Charles “Taze” Russell was something between an idiot and a scammer. The one thing that he wasn’t, was a biblical scholar. I spent sometime in the kingdom hall because of my aunt and it was hilarious….They try to convince people that they understand the biblical languages but if you have an...
  10. Grailhunter

    Understanding : Acts 2:38

    I should say that as far as Christianity water baptism is all they knew. Ya it was called the Way. Faith in Christ Repentance Baptism The Bread and Wine Ritual Help those that need help And Be good and do good.
  11. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    Ya “Christian Greek” was covered extensively in college. Oh there is no confusion about Heaven in the New Testament. Heavenly reward. The issue is in the Old Testament. Some scholars call Judaism a “this world” religion, I think mainly because the rewards and punishments for the Jews were mostly...
  12. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    Hell and Hades….are not mentioned in the Old Testament for a very good reason. If you have a Bible with these words in the Old Testament….buy another Bible or make corrections The word Hell does not appear in the Old or New Testament, because the word did not exist in the any of the biblical...
  13. Grailhunter

    Understanding : Acts 2:38

    Never optional
  14. Grailhunter

    Understanding : Acts 2:38

    Only Christ can save us. If anyone says that water baptism saves you, they are wrong. If anyone says that repentance saves you, they are wrong. If anyone says that the Bread and Wine ritual saves you, they are wrong. They are what Christ and the Apostles told us to do….. Why do you call Me...
  15. Grailhunter

    Understanding : Acts 2:38

    Hebrews 6:4-8 4: For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5: And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6: If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto...
  16. Grailhunter

    Understanding : Acts 2:38

    Both are important and involve the Deity. But without a water baptism there is usually no Spirit baptism, unless there is away to relive Pentecost over again. Good scripture......your point? Not according to the Bible. I have already gave you some of the scriptures on how many ways you can...
  17. Grailhunter

    Understanding : Acts 2:38

    Yes I do… Has Christ been divided? Paul was not crucified for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, so that no one would say you were baptized in my name. 1st Corinthians 1:13-15 So that no one would boast who...
  18. Grailhunter

    Understanding : Acts 2:38

    LOL But what do you mean? I am not the one that told John the Baptist to dunk them in water. I am not the one that told Christians in the Bible to have an urgency to find a water hole to be baptize in. Apparently they thought water meant something. Well it is not only me, God has a problem...
  19. Grailhunter

    Understanding : Acts 2:38

    Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit Acts 2:38 Act 2:38 tells it like it is. It says to be baptized and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. John the Baptist did not say...