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  1. Grailhunter

    Was polygamy a sin?

    @Randy Kluth Not *biblical* change. Absolutely not. That is why the Bible Only people are stuck. But the bottom line is....what is it that you want to do and still call yourself a christian?
  2. Grailhunter

    Was polygamy a sin?

    Oh no....all good. Yes I know I have a college degree in Theology and biblical languages. Not my point. The norm back then were non-Jewish and non-Christian. Jews and Christians made up less than 1% of the populous back then. Romans and such being the norm, there were no negative words for...
  3. Grailhunter

    Was polygamy a sin?

    Yes change The Old and New Testaments continued Polygamy and Concubinage and slavory. We do not.....ergo change My point with Roman slaves is that it was part of nearly every culture back then. And again I am not saying it was wrong by their standards, I am saying it is wrong by our Christian...
  4. Grailhunter

    Was polygamy a sin?

    You are talking a different type of slavery here. This is not Jewish slavery. The Mosaic Law outline that. But the whole Roman economic structure was based on slavery. Slaves of conquered countries were permanent. Some slaves were treated well and some cruelly....hard labor. House slaves were...
  5. Grailhunter

    Was polygamy a sin?

    I have already explained this in detail. Over a hundred scriptures prove you wrong. God the Father Yahweh God the Son Yeshua God the Holy Spirit Yep there be three of them. First off unbiblical simply means not in the Bible. The word wedding does occur in the Old or New Testament nor any...
  6. Grailhunter

    Was polygamy a sin?

    Right I think that was what he was thinking. But there maybe two stipulations here. Married and with one wife. Kind of a Jewish tradition for religious leaders. Right. Not exactly. The Christians were worshipping in secret to avoid Jewish and Roman harassment. They also worshipped in...
  7. Grailhunter

    Was polygamy a sin?

    You cannot say that Polygamy was permitted when permitted is a word that is not used. The Mosaic Law did not permit Polygamy, it regulated it. The Mosaic Law defined the culture of the Israelites / Jews and Polygamy and Concubinage was part of their culture. To the point that God took credit...
  8. Grailhunter

    Was polygamy a sin?

    No it is obvious. There were Christians that had multiple wives. So there had to be a stipulation. Why God allowed and or required certain things that seem wrong or unfair....Like killing a woman that was raped and killing all the women that were not virgins. There are a lot of things about...
  9. Grailhunter

    Was polygamy a sin?

    Can we count the ways we know that polygamy was practiced and encouraged during and after the biblical period and it was not a sin. Christians have a tendency to not like a lot of the things in the Old Testament so they go back and re-write the scriptures and history. It is called...
  10. Grailhunter

    What will happen to Christians who reject the Sabbath?

    What will happen to Christians that reject the Sunday worship of the Lord’s Day?
  11. Grailhunter

    Unethical treatment of LGBTQ humans / Understanding LGBTQ - 101

    Polygamy started pretty early on in the Bible, even before the Mosaic Law. Sarah was Abraham’s half sister and Hagar was his concubine. And the Mosaic Law regulated polygamous relationships and concubinage and never had anything negative to say about it. The Bible Old or New Testament never...
  12. Grailhunter

    Unethical treatment of LGBTQ humans / Understanding LGBTQ - 101

    This would be wrong at no point did the Mosaic Law or scriptures condemn or stop polygamy and concubinage Old or New Testament. So it was in their culture that it was seen if a man had many wives and children it was seen as a blessing of God. Now the scriptures did warn the kings not to have...
  13. Grailhunter

    Unethical treatment of LGBTQ humans / Understanding LGBTQ - 101

    There ya go partner. Can we count the ways we know that polygamy was practiced during and after the biblical period. For one, the scriptures never put a stop to polygamy or concubinage. So there was no reason to stop. The first Christians were Jewish-Christians and in there culture many wives...
  14. Grailhunter

    What will happen to Christians who reject the Sabbath?

    Just say no to Judaizers! And as far as your red explanation LOL All that is, is you trying to justify doing wrong.
  15. Grailhunter

    What will happen to Christians who reject the Sabbath?

    And He never commanded for Christians to stop polygamy or concubinage or slavery. And He never commanded for Christians to have wedding ceremonies to be married. And He never told anyone to worship Him in His Father’s house. The way I see it if you choose the Jewish Saturday Sabbath over the...
  16. Grailhunter

    What will happen to Christians who reject the Sabbath?

    I am thinking that if Christians want to worship on the Lord’s Day and on the Jewish Saturday Sabbath it probably won’t hurt anything. But if they give up the Lord’s Day and worship only on the Jewish Saturday Sabbath …..I wonder if Christ will smack'em with the Jew stamp and they will no...
  17. Grailhunter

    What makes a doctrine false?

    There are red flags that a belief is false. 1. The belief hinges on a word or phrase that is not in the scriptures. This is true 99% of the time and look at that 1% very closely. 2. The belief is contrary to the overall theme and or spirit of the scriptures. 3. The words used to explain the...
  18. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    I am not saying that there is not a Hell. I am saying that the Jews do not believe in it. The Hebrew Bible, what we call the Old Testament is also the Word of God. And in the Old Testament the Jews were never threatened with an eternal fiery Hell. It would be a cruel joke to send them there with...
  19. Grailhunter

    Why supporting convicted felon Trump is unchristian

    Is it a sin to vote for a democrat? Even worse to be a democrat. Would it have been a sin to have enlisted in the Nazi army? How about joining the Mafia? Oddly enough parts of the Mafia were religious. But none of these are as bad as being a democrat. Does this turn the act of voting for a...
  20. Grailhunter

    Understanding what Sheol, Hell, Hades mean.

    I am not saying that it was not around at the time of Christ but because the early church writings after the biblical period do not have much to say about it and it was not around for the Canon.