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  1. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Your refusal to answer my questions make the point; the trinity is not in the Bible. Supposing so is a house of cards that simple questions cause the trinity IDOL to collapse.
  2. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Stop avoiding the answer. What day were the Angels created?
  3. Wrangler

    Sleep apnea

    I was diagnosed with sleep apnea a few years ago. The APAP machine is a game changer. The brain fog is gone. I get sick much less often and wake rested.
  4. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I am asking the question. The answer is the answer to your question.
  5. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    The trinitarian formula and the verse were Jesus makes the anti-trinitarian statement that ‘the Father and I are one’ have nothing to do with chronological order.
  6. Wrangler

    Bio-engineered food warning in USA at minimum

    There is a battle not to require GMO labels, which to me, violate the whole purpose of food labeling.
  7. Wrangler

    Christian Persecution

    More on the same. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/al-qaida-winning-new-caliphate-syria Excerpts. None of this is consistent with the fiction that Syria is now controlled by individuals seeking a liberal democratic order and cooperation with the West. It is a picture of a nation that...
  8. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    Hmmm. I subscribe to Hebrews 4:12, the Word of God is alive. Did you ever read Confessions by St. Augustine? It delves into this point very eloquently. Consider Jesus simple command, “Follow me.” Objectively, it is a simple thing to be led. However, one can discern it means quite a bit more...
  9. Wrangler

    Christian Persecution

    IMO, this is not reported nearly as much as it deserves. https://www.wnd.com/2024/12/jihadis-are-terrorizing-christians-burning-churches-beheading-nuns-and-priests-report-charges/
  10. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    As I said, the formula leads to the conclusion that we are all God. In addition to expanding beyond 3 is rationalizations to support the man-is God thesis necessarily cut off the HS. If “the Father and I are one” means Jesus is God, why is the HS excluded from this account? It becomes a very...
  11. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Concisely put. It’s desperate that Trinitarians have to doctrinally invest in a verse that does not even refer to Jesus. IF their take was correct, it would be reflected in countless others verses. In John’s Gospel alone, they have no answer for: 1. Juxtaposition. 3:16 God, not the Father, so...
  12. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    What day were the Angels created?
  13. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Being and person are synonyms. Trinitarian logic is to assert God is a 3-person person.
  14. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I confess; I found this post difficult to understand even after reading it a couple of times. The Bible is a highly figurative book and it takes discernment to know what to take literally. The ancients thought and wrote much more figuratively than we do today. Many accusations of Biblical error...
  15. Wrangler

    The Best Revenge?

    It’s best to have enough of God’s grace to not take revenge. Rather move on. Love and pray for your enemies, then move on with the fruit of the Spirit. Live joyfully. Acting happy in their presence will be like heaping burning hot coals on their head. Not involving revenge, there was a...
  16. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    A person is a whole. Can’t compare equally to attributes of a person, which is much more than the magic, Pagan 3.
  17. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    Anything goes when one abdicates reason and embraces contradiction. The most basic contradiction of the man-is-god thesis is this: The term “God” refers to a plurality of persons, a committee of 3, if you will. One person, Jesus is “fully” God. Rationalizations to make Jesus God do not...
  18. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    See Deut 18:15-18. The logos of YHWH, his detailed plan unfolded in Luke 2 and Matthew 2.
  19. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    My point is logic works. Contradictions do not exist in reality. Either Jesus is a man as the Bible explicitly teaches repeatedly or the Bible is wrong. If the Bible is wrong, there is still no reason to suppose Jesus is God incarnate.