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  1. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    LOL You got that right! My paycheck is coming up soon but not soon enough to keep up with your "interfaith" references.
  2. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    I don't know about THE authority. LOL
  3. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    The fun you are having is being obtuse. Another post where you reveal a rejection of embracing authoritative references. Perhaps this will help. https://www.montana.edu/rmaher/ee417/Authoritative%20References.pdf Suppose you are a witness on a jury trial. You say you heard a rumor that the...
  4. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    Evidently, you did not understand what I wrote about authoritative references.
  5. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    All Gospels, including the Apocrypha Thomas and Mary are about the Good News that Jesus is the Messiah.
  6. Wrangler

    Why does everyone seem to need to come up with their own belief and doctrinal formula?

    The psychological importance of having a story to explain the world in which we live does not depend on it being true. Look at kids. They ask questions about the world they see and often accept whatever story a trusted adult tells them that explains what they observe. The belief in Santa shows...
  7. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    LOL. You invoked it to support and defend the trinity. From the time of Moses to Jesus is about 1700 years. This Jewish text was NEVER taken as evidence of a tri-une God until the 4th century, when trinitarians came to power in the Roman Empire, engaging here in revisionist history of the...
  8. Wrangler

    Why does everyone seem to need to come up with their own belief and doctrinal formula?

    Not so much the metaphysics but the epistemology that keeps our sanity. When our metaphysics is wrong, that is our opportunity to reconcile with cognitive dissonance. Getting back to the need for a world view, it explains the human need all over the world, across every culture, for myths...
  9. Wrangler

    Why does everyone seem to need to come up with their own belief and doctrinal formula?

    We all need a world view to function properly.
  10. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    No. Not at all. On this forum, we all have Christ in common and, by extension, the Bible. Other books may not be in common. Yes, I assumed your reference was from Scripture because Scripture also refers to the transfiguration.
  11. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    Have you read other Apocrypha, Such as the Gospel of Mary? For Christmas, a friend gave me the collection of HG Wells science fiction and I have about 10 other books before I get to this Christmas gifts. So, it’ll be a while before I get to any Apocrypha.
  12. Wrangler

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    Sure! I read many books besides Scripture. However, a general maxim is to rely on (meaning invoke) the most authoritative reference first, then pivot to additional supportive materials. For instance, FDR asked Congress for a declaration of war, which they voted for within 24 hours. General...
  13. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    “Us” and “our” does not mean 3 or 3 in 1. None of this says the nature of God is a trinity or having to believe it a requirement of salvation. The fact that you have to invoke such verses and read your doctrine into it shows how desperate it must be to defend a doctrine absent from Scripture.
  14. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    And it diminishes by half his sacrifice, making it not cover the wages of sin.
  15. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Indeed. The absence of proof text does not shake the confidence in their IDOL. In 66 books the concept of the trinity is not mentioned once. This explains why they shy away from my question about why it is important to believe from a Scriptural context. It follows that since the trinity is...
  16. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Let’s explore the fallacy of equality. Fathers are not equal to their sons, which explains how Jesus was getting an inheritance AND was given all authority by God. The son comes from the father. Fathers do not come from the sons. Jesus has a human nature. Even within trinityland, this is...
  17. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Proves the trinity is anti-Scriptural, heretical to what Scripture explicitly teaches.
  18. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I don’t know if it was you or someone else in the other thread. A list of words that need to be redefined to make sense of Trinity: need to add being and Begotten. Begotten means created. They come up with the nonsensical ‘eternally begotten.’ And if you look up Being, it is synonymous with...
  19. Wrangler

    Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

    You are denying the divine yolk due to your enormous ego. See Eph 5:22.
  20. Wrangler

    OT scripture quoted many times in the New Testament (NT) - why?

    More than OT quotes out of context, this is what people need to understand about Jewish Holy texts. There is one God, YHWH, who we are to love with our all (the Sh’ma, Deut 6:4). Jesus said this is the most important commandment. Jesus was a Jew born under the law, required to believe in this...