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  1. Wrangler

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    I’m pretending your posts on this topic are serious. None of that says ANYTHING about the trinity! ROFLMAO.
  2. Wrangler

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Because I’m a Unitarian Christian or Biblical Christian. Trinitarians want to pretend there is no such thing as a non-Trinitarian Christian.
  3. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    No verse says this.
  4. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Secondary to existence. There is only one God, the Father. Scripture is explicit on this point and is stated in Every Epistle. Everything relates to our Creator. Speaking of relationships, we too are children of God per Colossians 3:12. Does that make everyone God? If not, why not?
  5. Wrangler

    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    I look forward to @Scott Downey's thouhtful response.
  6. Wrangler

    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    Ignoring agency. Acts 3:13 calls Jesus a servant of God. Therefore, not God.
  7. Wrangler

    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    The "By" in v16 is a bad translation. "Through" is more precise and better translatations render it "through." And this fits in context, not only with the rest of the chapter and book of Colossians but the many 1,000's verses that identify Jesus' God in the singular and the fact that Jesus...
  8. Wrangler

    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    There is no verse that teaches he is God. There are verses that teach he is a man. Nuff said. Because of this basic fact, you have to retreat from what Scripture actually teaches to invest in reading into or "pointing' in another direction.
  9. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    No one on this site denies Jesus. What is denied is the Anti-Scriptural claim that he is his Father, who alone is God. Our God is named YHWH, not Jesus.
  10. Wrangler

    Is there a cure for my religious upbringing? - other than atheism, I mean.

    Invalid question. Truth is a WHAT, not a WHO. The question of what determines a valid metaphysics is the dry science of epistemology, of which, logic is a part. One measure of Spiritual truth is the fruit of the Spirit. Who lives joyfully with peace and who lives with anxiety, depression and...
  11. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    LOL Stop it! You’re killing me! Too funny …
  12. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I'm going to make a donation to St. Jude every time you invoke 'interfaith.' If I did this from the beginning of your use of the term, they'd have $10,000's. :Ohz
  13. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    So committed to their IDOL of invoking "support" - Jesus said I am (everyone says I am); Jesus raised people from the dead (Other prophets did also); Jesus forgave sins (the Apostles also forgave sins); there is no name for that attribute of God, which is his spirit and it is holy; Jesus has a...
  14. Wrangler

    Is there a cure for my religious upbringing? - other than atheism, I mean.

    Yes, one is going toward truth while the other is going further away from truth. At least they seem to both be pursuing truth. That's they key!
  15. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Yup. Do you notice how there is no mention of the nature of God or how believing this trinity idea is a requirement for salvation? Many verses mention different people and things. Doesn't make them God. I've asked a question many times in this thread that trinitarians avoid. Why is believing...
  16. Wrangler

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    If you really want to know, I recommend the book When Jesus Became God.
  17. Wrangler

    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    There are always mountains of evidence for the trinity … just around the bend. All of Scripture ‘points’ to it, don’t you know.
  18. Wrangler

    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    Obviously a major divide from those who reject the trinity is the proper discernment of Scripture. Taking literal as figurative and visa versa.
  19. Wrangler

    Men in Women sports means essentially, men are allowed to beat up women causing severe injuries

    Common sense sacrificed at the LGBT alter, where feelings supercede facts. Gender affirming is sex denying. My wife does not even support females in boxing.
  20. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    There are many gods and lords in Scripture. yea, not sure why you reference that. Jesus said he does not know the hour of his return. Only God knows that.