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Amen. As were the tables of the law enshrined inside, the laws of the government of heaven, based on love, thus the ark of His testimony. Strange how the church sees fit to think it can change those laws, or think them unreasonable to obey, as if designating them as the 'law of Moses' somehow...

Yes. That is a deep concern to me that those who reduce Christ's nature to being "divine" only, while not recognizing that His Sonship is the greatest evidence to His deity, are placing Christ on the same level as Satan and his angels.

Humility and submission to His Father is therefore a fault?

Of course it's just coincidence that not so long ago Bible societies were the excrement of the earth, at least as far as Rome was concerned, and the Bible itself, at least the KJV, forbidden and fit only for bonfires. And now however that we have all those emasculated versions the Bible...

Couldn't agree more.

I'm amazed you could read it and think it was designed to support the trinity.

When have I ever suggested I support the trinity? I believe there are 3 divine members of the Godhead, but I do not accept the trinity as we have them taught to is by creeds and assumptions of man. Just take my posts as your read them. Dont make assumptions.

I agree with all those scriptures. I'm a protestant. One of very few left. One who believes in Sola scriptura. And also believes one's life ought to be a reflection of the written standards of gospel living, those standards of conduct being of equal authority to the rest of scripture. I do not...

But that's not what I was saying was it. It's what you are saying, and I'm not buying into it. I said Jesus is equal in all ways except one. Rank. That's not complicated.

Okay, I agree with you. No need to get angry.

I agree. But that term 'rapture' could be the second coming when KJV 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain...

The silence of God. In our discussions regarding the Godhead, the one thing we need to remember is that there cannot be found in Scripture any explanation of how the Father, Son and Holy Spirit have their existence together. This is why we should be very guarded not to make any attempt to...

Interesting isn't it, that the "Catholic faith" likes to speak about Christ's suffering, His exemplary life, His birth and resurrection, and the need for having faith in those things, but not one word about having faith in the shed blood and death of Christ.

I don't doubt Israel will be playing a significant role in the last days. As will every other nation on the planet. But prophecy, and understanding and recognizing the major players in the unfolding of Revelation, have already been revealed through the symbolism and time clues and criteria that...

But that's not what I was saying is it. That's what you are attempting to intimate. "All the ways in which they are not equal"? I'm not talking about His human nature. I'm talking about His divine nature which He temporarily covered with His human nature and refused to use to His own advantage...

Creating a being and sacrificing that which you speak into existence, is a long long way from sacrificing a part of yourself, begotten of the same nature and substance, such as Abraham was willing to do...a type of the sacrifice God made for us.

This may come as a surprise to you, but this topic isn't actually about doctrine. It's about knowing and understanding who God is....

Oh, totally agree, my experience also, but the transaction I was thinking of was the Son's own transaction in exchanging His former nature for which he sacrificed and taking upon Himself the nature of man.

Like begets like Barney.

So who are these folk... KJV 1 Thessalonians 4:15 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep . 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the...