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But the assumption was that nothing of any value can come from a man that is not in Christ. So we need to look at this from the bottom-up to see the value...from weakness into strength...and not from the top down view as you are doing...from a supposed lofty position looking down...if we want to...

This is a very polite deflection. But a deflection nevertheless. Can you discern that this is not a curse whereby you need to use the tactic of returning a blessing but without substance? Can you discern the Body of Christ? or is anything outside your experience something to be wary of? I am...

This is a Calvinist notion that absolutely everything a man can outside of being empowered from heaven is sinful. That's the T in Tulip...or...total depravity. So this is a man-made doctrine that tries to bring down what a man can do of himself as a believer and raise that above the identical...

The sheep/goat judgment is the GWT judgment whereby all the peoples of the world will be gathered for final judgment. This is NOT a judgment of the house of God. These will already have been judged. "and the books were opened"...and then ANOTHER book was opened which was the book of life. So...

Yes, the Creator came down among His creation in order to restore us back to the image of God in our deepest being.

It looks like it's the book itself (from the OP) that's hard to believe. :rolleyes:

It's good to have an open attitude as you do. We all just want to be pleasing to God and as such we need to remain humble and teachable. It's good to let the Holy Spirit do His work in us as we listen prayerfully and are flexible to His word. :)

Welcome here SP! :) Darren, the orthodox position concerning Christ is that no created being can abide in another created being. As such Jesus is a life giving Spirit. Divine as God is since they are a part of each other. But as we abide in Him we are given the grace of His humanity so we can...

Actually Gehenna in Hebrew is Gey Hinom..the valley of Hinom...which is outside the dung gate of Jerusalem in the south western corner of the walled city. It is a place where garbage was burned.

And now that perfected way in Christ is available for all who surrender to His will...in order to empower them to walk as He did and overcome as He overcame. Rev. 3:21 'He who overcomes, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His...

Talk about man-made deception. A little power to us? A little strength into us? This is a direct mockery of God's grace that is sufficient for us to do ALL that God requires of us. So this very doctrine is there to mock God. Did God not empower us by His Spirit to overcome as Jesus overcame...

This is not right. We all need the law. To not be under the law means that we are walking in another power that fulfills the law. But the law is required as long as this age lasts. Being reborn is not enough to be holy and righteous. Being reborn is something that God does...but as a...

You are very confused in your ideas. Eph.2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3...

Wise company brings wisdom. Proverbs 13:20 He who walks with wise men will be wise, But the companion of fools will be destroyed. Of course by holiness we don't mean a movement that is from men....but real holiness before God.

I never said anything about hell. And we are not to use our own private interpretations of the bible. That is when we try understanding something that our minds can't fathom....with our minds.

This is where so many get confused...between what salvation looks like right now...and what happens on judgment day for an everlasting salvation. They are not the same thing. What we get right now is the gift of a empowerment to do things that if they are done merit a reward. What many people...

He will finish His work...in us. He overcame, and He invites us to also overcome just as He did. And that means He didn't overcome instead of us....but in order to empower us to do a He did.

Actually there is nothing "normal" about the life of a Christian. ;) We are being constantly challenged to leave our "normal" way of doing things behind. So I guess the normal Christian day is to remove us from what we have always seen as normal. We are being led into a miraculous relationship...

What I'm saying is that you misunderstand what Paul was saying. He didn't have a different gospel, he preached the kingdom of God just as Peter did...and Jesus did. But according to the power that Jesus' finished work (including His resurrection) affords. What the death and resurrection of...

What you are saying is that we can safely ignore the words of Jesus Christ...and turn to a fantasy concocted by a misunderstanding of Paul...just as Peter warned that many would do.