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Trust is obedience according to the Bible.

No, no, no. You can't disagree. He just quoted a bunch of godless people whose profession suffers from twice the suicide rate as the general population. If ANYONE can speak authoritatively on Biblical issues, it's them! How DARE you answer back to the absolute Gospel of psychology by quoting the...

Of course you're incapable of responding honestly. "Do not be arrogant, but fear : the Jews were cut off for unbelief, but the same rule applies to you, and God will cut you believers off if you are found unbelieving later on." What's your response? "Yeah, if you're unbelieving you should be...

Anyone who wants can go through this thread and see what a complete mess you've made of things and how I've had to straighten you out on every thing you've stated. You truly are sad.

If that was the only verse, perhaps you could make a case; as it is, the context, as I've already laid out (you should respond to my responses not the guy you already agree with), prove otherwise. The group of "My Righteous Ones" that fail to endure exist--eg, Hebrews 6 "impossible to renew them...

"And also with you." lol Yes, may God grant peace.

1. You pretend I've tried to hide my view when I've been on here repeating myself over and over and over. Now you want to pretend like you've "exposed" me or like this is some kind of "gotcha"? Again, I don't understand how your mind manages to get things (everything) so wrong. 2. So... you...

You tried to deflect this by saying "it's descriptive not prescriptive"... which was an endorsement of the words, only not as if it were a "commandment" to follow, since "descriptive" means it is merely "describing" what will happen. Am I getting you wrong?

LOL "God will repay every man according to his works... eternal life... doers of the Law will be justified... when God judges mens' hearts by Christ". Which part of that am I getting wrong? Show me.

Right, you failed to understand the argument and to address the text. The argument is only the righteous are eligible for eternal life--you agreed justification was by works, but apparently failed to understand the outcropping of that : eternal life is repaid them. Romans 2:6-7 explicitly...

In other words, you agree justification is by works of the Law at the eschatological judgment and only doers of the Law will be repaid eternal life... you just stipulate that this coming justification by works at this coming judgment and the repayment of eternal life will only be earnable by...

I would not agree there is no natural Israel anymore (just read Romans 11) but I agree we need faith not an ethnicity to be saved. :)

Oops! Only doers of good will be justified on the Day of Judgment, and be repaid eternal life Romans 2:6-16 Galatians 6:6-10!

Me pointing your lack of consistency out is "being defensive"? Oh, boy, this should be fun LOL That's hardly relevant since you hardly cite Scripture! LOL Beside, I met all your claims with Scripture (not a Scriptureless tangential rant, like you do), so, yeah, the truth of Scripture is being...

I don't want to be contrary, and I do agree the Bible doesn't teach OSAS, and I do agree that that passage is one reason people shouldn't hold to OSAS, BUT I also agree with Marks that the fear of the Lord is only the outset of wisdom.

God is kind.

Formerly believers, now blotted out of the Book of Life, their faith taken away from them for their having not been productive Matthew 25:24

Oops! 1. Romans 7:7-24 describes a pre-Christ life : Romans 7:5 says it describes the life Jews life when they're under Law and "in the flesh"--by contrast, Romans 8:9 says Christians aren't in the flesh but in the Spirit. There're more proofs I could share--let me know if you require them. 2...

1. No, the Pharisees did NOT keep the Law. That was their problem. They didn't ADMIT they broke the Law. They were dishonest. "God can save the sinner you are but not the Saint you're not." "Whoever claims they have no sin is a liar and God's Word is not abiding in them." 2. No, you're mixed...

I don't think "the Father gave us saving grace" in a way that negates Scripture. Romans 2:6-16 and Galatians 6:6-10 say only doers of the law/good will be justified and repaid eternal life on the day of judgment. That is the discussion. Don't change the subject.