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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    I don't buy any of that at all. You are making something simple into something complicated because of the false SDA doctrine that you have decided to believe in. In 2 Peter 3:6-7, Peter compares the future fiery destruction of the heavens and the earth to the destruction that occurred with the...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    That's not what the text says. It says the fire comes from their mouth, not from heaven. So, why do you not take Revelation 11:5 literally, but take all the rest of the verses related to the two witnesses in Revelation 11 literally? Why are you not consistent in how you interpret Revelation 11...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    So, you're going to stick with the imaginary story that the human ruler of Tyre was an anointed cherub who protected the holy mountain of God and was created perfect in all his ways?
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    All that God created was "very good" (Genesis 1:31), and you contradict that by saying that Satan was created evil. You are blatantly contradicting scripture with your beliefs and you can't even discern that.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Why are you demanding to see those specific terms? That's silly. The concepts of natural darkness and spiritual darkness are obviously found often in the Bible. Here is one example of a reference to natural, physical darkness that caused people to not be able to see with their physical eyes...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    It's obviously referring to physical light and darkness. I don't know what causes you to miss simple things like this, but you really need to ask God for wisdom about these things (James 1:5-7).
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Tell me who the fallen cherub of Ezekiel 28 is, if not Satan then. Are you going to try to insist that cherubim are human beings and that this particular cherub was a human being created perfect in all his ways? You know that's not true.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    You are avoiding the obvious fact that cherubim are not human beings. Ezekiel 28:12-19 refers to a perfectly created, anointed cherub who later fell. You are not recognizing that Ezekiel 28:1-10 is about the human prince of Tyre with Ezekiel 28:12-19 being about the spiritual ruler of Tyre who...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Why the great chain?

    I never related his binding directly to the duration of the new covenant. You are making a strawman argument. Hebrews 2:14 says that Christ removed the power of death from Satan. Do you deny that was necessary in order to free people from their bondage to the fear of death? You seem to be like...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Is Revelation 20:1-6 really a recap?

    You are once again making invalid arguments from silence like pre-tribs do when they say that 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 can't be related to Matthew 24:29-31 because it makes no mention of angels. This is a weak, invalid type of argument that you use over and over again. It can't be taken...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Why the great chain?

    What is the problem with that exactly? I don't know what you're talking about. I am not trying to relate his loosing to the new covenant ending. Where are you getting that from? Once again we are nowhere close to being on the same page when trying to discuss something, so it's not worth all the...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Why the great chain?

    What are you intending to say, that you think Christ's death had no affect on Satan despite Him taking the power of death away from Satan? Do you think the same percentage of people in the world have feared death in New Testament times compared to Old Testament times? Paul said about the...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Why the great chain?

    Why do you think you can speak for everyone? No one is saying Christ's victory is undone, but you say that Gentiles can't lose salvation? I know you believe that they can, so what are you talking about? Paul talked about a mass falling away occurring in the time just before Christ's return. As...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Why the great chain?

    Some will. Those who currently don't fear death don't fear it because of having the hope of eternal life through Jesus Christ. Paul said there would be a mass falling away in the time just before Jesus returns (2 Thessalonians 2:3) and I relate that time to Satan's little season. Like OT times...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The sons of God

    You are so foolish. The scoffers Peter referenced scoff at the promise of Christ's second coming. Davidpt does not scoff at that. The scoffers are ignorant about the flood of Noah's day that destroyed all life on earth except for Noah and his family because they scoff at the idea that God would...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Why the great chain?

    Yep, they are. It's interesting that the only thing you quoted from my post is the passage I referenced (Hebrews 2:14-15). Do you have no thoughts on what I said in my post? What do you think about what your fellow Premil ewq1938 said. He said "satan was not bound after the cross. He actually...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    You can read passages like 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12 to see what will happen on the day of the Lord. Where does scripture ever indicate that the day of the Lord never ends? What we can see described as occurring on the day of the Lord like the resurrection of the dead, the...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Whatever. Who cares what we call them? Stick to the issue at hand instead of wasting time with semantics. Goodness gracious. Where do you come up with this nonsense? You are saying that all devils/demons are collectively called Satan? What?! You are just making things up at this point. It...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Why the great chain?

    This is an incredibly ignorant statement and shows why Premillennialism needs to be rejected as the false doctrine that it is. Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Why the great chain?

    So, after all that discussion, it turns out that we basically agree on the timing of when he was initially bound. I have no idea what you're talking about here. Please clarify what you're saying if you can. If not, never mind. Of course I won't agree with preterism, but I can't give any...