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You cannot disconnect the revelation from what the revelation said. It was Jesus who asked "Who do men say that I am"? Had the incorrect response been given, the revelation would be of no account. Stranger

How is being a 'child of promise' un-Biblical when I showed you in the Bible where it comes from. It comes from the very verses you have been addressing. (Rom. 9:8) "...but the children of the promise are counted for the seed." (Gal. 4:28) "Now we brethren as Isaac was, are the children of...

First of all, your claim that Israel was only a person is idiotic. (Gen. 18:18) "Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him? (Gen. 46:3) "And he said, I am God, the God of thy father: fear not to go down into...

I just showed you. Read again post #329, 340, 343. Not that I have any illusions that it will do any good. No, Peter is not the rock here. It is the confession of belief he made concerning Jesus Christ. That is what the Church is built on. Would you have the Church be built on one...

I didn't ignore his list of Scripture. If you read all the posts you would have seen that. I have answered these ready made lists before from him and have no interest to go through his lists again. Of course you can be sure about Scripture. But just as I told BreadOfLife, this is not just...

Adam and Eve were children of God before the fall. Yet they fell. Well, don't be so quick to label it silly yet. I think it is quite instructive. Stranger

God did. (Ez. 28:15). Or are you saying God created Satan with sin. God created imperfectly? God did. (Gen. 1:26-27) Or are you saying being created in the image of God by God, has it's imperfections? Just because they had a will, doesn't mean they were not perfect. They were perfect in...

Adam and Eve were perfect. Satan was perfect. How are you so sure? Stranger

The verses in John speak of the New Birth as a result of belief on Jesus Christ. Peters confession is the belief on Jesus Christ as the Son of God. And upon that rock of confession Christ is building His Church. The Church is composed of all those who are born-again. Stranger

The first sin occurred in Heaven, as said. It was committed by one who was perfect. Satan and his angels have a place still there where God has not yet thrown them out. (Rev. 12:7-9) He and they will be thrown out later. And later a new 'heaven' and earth will be created. Why because...

It certainly does. How about if it says 'church'? The Church consists of those believe on Jesus Christ and are born-again. See all the verses of John I gave you. Christ will build His Church upon that confession as he told Peter when he made such a confesion. The Church consists of...

You forget. Forget what? (Rom. 9:6) says "they are not all Israel, which are of Israel". That simply means not every Israelite is considered by God to be an Israelite. He must also be a child of promise as Isaac was. This doesn't mean that a Gentile believer becomes an Israelite. To...

The first sin was in Heaven. Nothing new. Stranger

Again, I did show you. Go back and read post #329. Ask me again so I can tell you the same. Stranger

I have answered them all in our discussions in the past. And once I answer them, you will go to your ready internet and type up some more. So, no thanks, I have answered them before. The point of this discussion is, I repeat as usual, our salvation in Heaven is secure due to the works of...

What book do these verses belong to? Stranger

Then show what you read, and prove your point. Stranger

Sorry, but you don't get to decide who is in the universal Church of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ said it is all those who are born-again. Remember? And, I'm not calling you 'Roman Catholic'. That is an oxymoron term. A universal coupled with a distinctive. I call you and your church...

Save your long list for another. I've answered these in the past. Did you read through the posts that I wrote? The point of the thread is, because we cannot lose our salvation in Heaven, then we cannot lose it here either. That which secures us forever in heaven, was done for us here...

Well, the Roman Church has taken over your church. That is why though Rome is thousands of miles away, you are still in the Roman Church. Yes, as a Christian you are part of the Catholic Church. Just as I am. Only I am Protestant and you are Roman. Christ is the only Head of the...