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You are right. I did not consider the untimely figs because of the logic problem I pointed out about the timing of the sun, moon, star event. This event can happen after the period of great tribulation or it can happen during the period of great tribulation, not both. To me, this needs to be...

Rev 8:13 "And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!" Why did you ignore trumpets 5, the first woe and...

You believe that Christ's coming takes place during the great tribulation. You also believe that the signs of Christ's coming take place immediately after the great tribulation. I don't know how both can be true. How do the signs of Christ's coming take place immediately before and also during...

The end of the 2nd woe and the beginning of the 3rd woe do take place very close together. IMO the entirety of the 3rd woe is 75 days, not 4. The 7th angel sounds which is the beginning of the 3rd woe. Then all 7 bowls are poured out throughout the duration of the 3rd woe. The lightnings...

The great tribulation is a war of Satan and his armies v the 2 witnesses and believers. God will intervene to stop the great tribulation before everyone dies because of it. AC will still be alive passed this time, but God will have begun his reign. God intervenes or stops the great tribulation...

Coming back to life was a key event in Jonah's life that made him a sign that Jesus would follow. Jonah died but came back to life. This is the sign of Jonah. When Jesus died and came back to life, he fulfilled the sign of Jonah. Key events in Jesus' life will make him a sign that others will...

I don't know why my last 2 posts were created as 1. Hopefully Ronald and Gottservant will each see my response to each of their posts.

Good post! "TBH, that doesn't add up, the AC has to get Israel to trust him, he is NEVER a false messiah like many think (not saying you do) so they guy that gets Israel to agree (Dan. 9:27) to join the E.U. is the same man who is going to conquer Israel suddenly. God have us different layers...

We are just not on the same page with regard to spiritual princes. The spiritual prince of Israel is Michael. Dan 10:21 " But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince." Satan is the prince of...

IMO, the prince of Dan 9:26 is the spiritual authority over Rome, just as Michael is the spiritual authority over Israel. IMO the King of the North (man) will rise up under a separate spiritual authority - the prince of Greece, before taking over a New Roman Empire under the spiritual prince of...

We are in pretty much in agreement here. My only point in the last post was to show that the 2nd woe was not part of God's wrath.

It is not... about one's point of view. It is about what God's Word says as written. Your claim is that there will be THREE major earthquakes at the end, when there will only be TWO. What is confusing you is that you have failed to understand that the 6th Seal description in Revelation 6 has TWO...

So you are saying that key events from the life of Jesus that will only be repeated by the 2 witnesses are not the sign of the son of man because that does not fit into your chart! That is hard to accept. I hope you will take another look at your chart.

There is nothing to indicate that seal 1 is representative of antichrist. Seal 1 is defined for us as a conqueror. I agree that seal 2 represents war. I agree that seal 3 represents famine. I also agree with what you have under seal 4, but I use the term pestilence. Rev 6:8 "And I looked, and...

"The sign of the Son of man in heaven will be Jesus sickle in hand." Really? The sign of Jesus is Jesus? AI says, "No, a sign of something cannot be that exact same thing because a sign points to a separate underlying condition, event, or object. I know that you have studied and studied to...

You are correct, and I was not referring to a person, but some sort of angelic being. Do you think that a spiritual authority existed at the time of the Roman Empire as occurred during the times of the Persian and Greek Empires? Does Israel have a spiritual prince? Dan 10:13 "But the prince of...

You didn't state what the sign of the son of man is. The scriptures you quoted each contain the return of the son of man, but not the sign that will occur before the return. If anything can happen before his return, any point of view is valid. Can you tell me why the sign of the son of man is...

This is my chart for the timing of things in the book of Revelation. Notice how there are 6 separate stories. The spacing is disproportionate, but the period of great tribulation is followed by the period of God's wrath which is followed by chapter 20 of the Revelation. In other words, story 1...

I have tried to show you why my point of view is different than yours by using scripture which I see as supportive of that view. You have stated that my point of view does not fit into yours. I agree that my point of view is different from yours, but so far you haven't given me any evidence that...

This is way to much to respond to, so I'll just focus on the sign of the son of man. The sign of Jonah was not Jonah. Jonah was dead for 3 days but came back to life. Therefore, it was Jesus who fulfilled the sign of Jonah by being dead for 3 days and then coming back to life. In the same way...