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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Absolutely. Those first few verses you referenced have fallen angels being in chains in the bottomless pit, yet you don't see Premils claiming that all the fallen angels are literally chained up in a literal bottomless pit or prison. Some try to say that it's only talking about some of the...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Well said. Here is something that Premils do not seem to consider. Satan doesn't work alone. Satan and the beast work hand in hand (Revelation 13:4). And, of course, Satan doesn't work without the help of his angels, either. So, it only follows that while the beast and the fallen angels...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Yes, He did. You are not even reading the text carefully at all. The same being who the Pharisees were accusing him of drawing power from to cast out demons is the one who Jesus said would be divided against himself if he cast himself out. It would make no sense for Jesus to reference Satan in...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Absolutely right. He is having to invent things not found anywhere in scripture to support his view. The only king of the evil spiritual realm is Satan. It calls all of the other fallen angels "his angels" (Revelatoin 12:9, Matthew 25:41). Premils have to invent an imaginary other king of the...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    This does not address my point at all. The Pharisees called him Beelzebub. Jesus called him Satan. They were not talking about different beings, regardless of how they named them. The Pharisees accused Jesus of casting out demons with the power of Satan, but they called Him Beelzebub because he...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Was the gospel of Christ not being spread in the world just because Satan was allowed to blind the minds of some? No, it was still being spread throughout the world. Satan can only blind the minds "of them which believe not". He didn't make them "believe not" in the first place. By blinding...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Nope. Your spiritual discernment about Satan, fallen angels and demons is very lacking. In another post, I asked you to tell me the difference between a fallen angel, a demon and an evil spirit. You differentiated between them, but didn't explain why or exactly how you differentiate between...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    You continue to insist that a spirit being like Satan can be literally chained up in a literal prison, which makes no sense. Revelation 2:10 describes something that God allowed in order that the believers in the church in Smyrna "may be tried" and if they passed the test by being "faithful unto...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    If only you would embrace the teaching of Jesus that heaven and earth will pass away unexpectedly when He returns, resulting in the destruction of all unbelievers (Matthew 24:35-39).
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Are you saying you don't think Beelzebub is another name for Satan? It is. It is the name the Pharisees used for Satan. That's why Jesus said what He did immediately after being accused of casting out demons by the power of Beelzebub. He knew they were accusing him of casting out demons by the...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I completely disagree. Tell me what you think the difference is exactly between a fallen angel, a demon and an evil spirit. Do you think demons and evil spirits were created to be evil? If not, what were they before becoming evil? Good spirits? Isn't that what angels are? It's interesting that...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Matthew 12:26 is where Jesus proved that He could not have been casting demons out of people by the power of Satan because that would mean Satan was divided against himself. What does that have to do with Revelation 9:4? What are you talking about here? Because of your carnal way of thinking...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    What is your understanding of the locusts described in Revelation 9? Do you think they are literal locusts or symbolically describe something else? Many people, including myself, believe that they symbolically represent fallen angels/demons. This is what it says about their leader. Revelation...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Well said. Premils seem to have no understanding at all about the effect that Christ's ministry, death and resurrection had on Satan. Paul describes the Gentiles as having been "without Christ", having "no hope" and being "without God in the world" in Old Testament times before Christ came...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Neither the bottomless pit/abyss nor the lake of fire are literal places. At least, not in the sense of being a literal bottomless pit or a literal lake of fire. The bottomless pit symbolically represents a spiritual condition and the lake of fire symbolically represents the place where...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Good deal. Let me know if you ever want to actually back up your view with scripture. You need to admit that you're wrong about that. You certainly have done NOTHING to prove that. You're all talk. The next coherent argument you make using scripture will be the first one. I admit that you lie...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil interpretation of 2 Peter 3:10-12 vs Genesis 9:15

    For how long do you think the meek will inherit the earth (Matthew 5:5)?
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Yes, I did. You should try to think first in the future before making false claims about Amil. Try actually making a coherent argument using scripture to support your view for once instead of just making things up about Amil that you can't back up.