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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 is not talking about world peace and safety

    So, you think 1,000 years can be considered "a little season". And you are trying to talk down about others here? You speak complete nonsense.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 is not talking about world peace and safety

    This post is very ironic. Do you own a mirror? If so, look in it.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    LOL! You are truly cracking me up with your nonsense. Your view is more like the Premillennialist view than mine because, like them, you have the day of the Lord lasting for a long time instead of what scripture teaches, which is that it will come as a thief in the night bringing sudden...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Joel is referring to "the last days" in that verse, not "the day of the Lord". People have been calling on the name of the Lord and being saved during "the last days", according to Joel in Joel 2:28-32. Which Peter quoted in Acts 2:16-21. The last days lead up to the day of the Lord when the...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    No, I absolutely am not. That is a ludicrous and utterly foolish comment. Premillennialism agrees with you that the day of the Lord refers to a long period of time rather than a literal 24 hour day, as I believe. During some hour during that literal 24 hour day in the future that no one knows...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    At the time the prophecy was given, what you believe was the beginning of the day of the Lord was not literally near at hand since that prophecy was written hundreds of years before Christ came. So, I'm not sure why you want to take that so literally when it talks about the day of the Lord being...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The false messianic age

    That is not what Paul taught at all. He taught that what is described in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 would occur BEFORE the day of the Lord, which is the day of Christ's second coming and our being gathered to Him. Paul is very clear in 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 that the day of the Lord will arrive...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 is not talking about world peace and safety

    LOL. You think making false accusations about me supposedly misrepresenting pre-tribs in the original post when I didn't is "serious and mature discussion"? Do you think it's "serious and mature discussion" to accuse me of making repeated strawman arguments against pre-trib in the past without...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    Of course. I didn't say He never permanently dwells in a temple at all, I said "He has never permanently dwelt in a temple made with hands". Obviously, I was referring to physical temple buildings made by human hands there. Okay.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    8 days, the 8th day leading to a new beginning.

    You are trying to claim that the Greek word can't be used symbolically and has to refer to a literal thousand, which is just ridiculous. Almost any word can be used symbolically. Saying that the Greek word, which does translate as "a thousand" in English, can't be symbolic is like saying the...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    Right. That's why I said "no, not permanently". I was agreeing with you. He has never permanently dwelt in a temple made with hands, but He was spiritually in the presence of the high priest in the most holy place of the temple on the day of atonement each year when the high priest entered...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Yep. And I said I'm okay with agreeing to disagree about what "the day of the Lord" means. It looks like you don't want to do that? I'm okay with continuing the discussion, but I have doubts that it will be productive. We're just going to repeat ourselves, most likely. Obviously not or I...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Yes, why do something that would make Peter look like a false prophet? 2 Peter 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Not even a coming during the first century in a spiritual sense? How can you disprove that? In your mind there's no chance at all that the following verses could be related, for example... Zechariah 14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Yep. You don't have to convince me. I fully agree with all of that. Zechariah 14 is not referring to THE day of the Lord like we see in other passages. It can't be. It does not line up with what other passages say about the day of the Lord. I think we should especially trust Paul and Peter's...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Agree completely. I believe Paul makes it quite clear that it's a literal day and it will bring "sudden destruction" (1 Thess 5:2-3). Nothing prolonged about that at all. And, yes, that day will involve the resurrection of the dead in Christ and gathering to Christ as well. But, if the amount of...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    I don't see in scripture where "the last days", which we agree began with the first coming of Christ and continue until the second coming of Christ, are ever referred to as "the day of the Lord" and I only see the day Christ returns referred to as "the day of the Lord" in scripture and that will...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    He also tries to claim he's not a futurist. If he's not a futurist, then no one is.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    Not permanently, no. Did you think I was implying that when I said He is done dwelling in temples made with hands? I didn't intend to imply that He has ever permanently dwelt in temples made with hands. He never has.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    I already touched on that. I see the time of the New Testament as "the last days", not "the day of the Lord". You seem to be mixing up "the last days" with "the day of the Lord" for some reason. I see "the last days" spoken about by Joel and referenced by Peter in Acts 2 as referring to the New...