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Would you include 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3? That's clearly about the same event since there will not be two different days of the Lord that will come as a thief in the night. I would say that Paul indicating that there will be sudden destruction from which unbelievers "shall not escape" strongly...

Okay, so that was someone else who said that. Got it. I just realized that maybe they were just referring to the 4 gospel accounts (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) rather than claiming there are 4 gospels. Does that seem right? Was just curious what was meant by that.

Agree completely. Also, scripture is clear that God is done dwelling in temples made with hands. Why would He ever do that again when He can dwell in us instead? What do people who think there will be a third physical temple of God not understand about verses like these... Acts 7:48 Howbeit the...

Paul indicated that "they shall not escape" the "sudden destruction" that he said will occur when the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night (1 Thessalonians 5:2-3). Who do you think "they" are? Wouldn't "they" be the ones who Paul talked about as being in spiritual darkness in 1...

I'm not sure and am not going to speculate on who the four living creatures in front of the throne are, but I'm just wondering what you meant when you said "they represent the 4 gospels"? There is only one gospel.

I disagree. I don't believe OT prophets prophesied about a long period of time called "the day of the Lord". Where exactly are you seeing that? Instead, I see that they prophesied about a long period of time they called "the last days". Which was a reference to the New Testament time period...

None of this nonsense is actually taught in scripture anywhere. Does that matter to you or do you think it's okay to just make things up like this? Huh? What in the world are you talking about? The days of the week have absolutely nothing to do with whether Amil or Premil is true. What Amil...

Where is the thousand years referenced in 1 Corinthians 15:24-28? Paul references "the end" there when the kingdom is delivered by Jesus to the Father, not the beginning of Christ's reign, as you imagine. Nothing there about a future thousand years, that's for sure. Nothing there about a...

What is the reason you quoted that passage in response to me? Regardless of what the reason is, I'll just say for now that the passage you quoted supports what I'm saying in this thread. In the days of Noah before the flood, people thought they were spiritually at peace and were safe from...

How does that fit with 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12 which tell us that the DOTL will come unexpectedly as a thief in the night bringing sudden and mass destruction upon its arrival? Those passages indicate that the DOTL doesn't come and doesn't begin until the 2nd coming of Christ...

That's exactly what Peter taught in the following passage. He compared the two event directly in the same context in terms of the scope of each event. 2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water...

That is my experience, also, but he thinks I'm just making that up. I definitely am not. I know how many pre-tribbers interpret Revelation and their interpretation of it means they definitely don't think there will be world peace and safety in the time just before Jesus returns. Because of that...

Yet, you still want to disagree with me about something because God forbid you just agree with me about something. No. I have gone over this with you MANY times, so why are you still asking me about this? Did you not ever read any of my previous answers to that question when you've asked me...

LOL. Don't try to tell me what to do. You responded as if you've never read 1 Thessalonians 5, so that's why I said what I did. There is absolutely nothing written in 1 Thessalonians 5 in relation to the conditions of the world in terms of there being world peace and safety before the day of the...

I'm done with you. You are a complete waste of my time. No matter what I say, you will just say I'm making a strawman argument. I have a million better things to do than deal with your nonsense.

<Yawn>. As if we need you to tell us that. No offense, but that's stupid. I either have to think he's wrong about everything or right about everything? That's basically what you're saying. Nonsense. Preterists, like futurists, make the mistake of thinking that Jesus only spoke of one time...