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  1. Stranger

    You can never lose your salvation!

    As I said, no problem with the law. The problem is our inability to keep the law. (Rom. 8:7) says nothing of losing your salvation or keeping the law. Give me the verse and I will tell you what Jesus meant. (1 John 3:4) and (Heb. 12:4) are good verses. How do they prove loss of...
  2. Stranger

    You can never lose your salvation!

    The question doesn't concern any problems with the law. There are no problems with the law. It is perfect, holy, just and good. The problem lies in my ability to keep the law. I can't. And, neither can anyone else. And this is why the law was given in the first place. It reveals me a...
  3. Stranger

    Need some help on this verse...binding things on earth

    The context, as 'Dcopymope' said, is dealing with sin within the church. The church is still, at this point, future. It follows that if the offender has been treated his opportunity through all other methods, (Matt. 18:15-17), then it is taken before the church. Christ now delegates...
  4. Stranger

    You can never lose your salvation!

    The topic is whether or not one can lose their salvation. You gave the example of Israel in the wilderness as proof that we can lose our salvation by not entering the promised land. Which is an error as I showed you. And you are still in error as, now, not everyone is in the wilderness...
  5. Stranger

    Can you even imagine the huge load guilt and shame ??

    I did give you Scripture. I couldn't find any however that said you were the Holy Ghost. Gee thanks. That was what I was doing. Sounds good. Stranger
  6. Stranger

    Unconditional love ?

    No, being one of God's people, one of God's sheep is not a condition that the believer must do to be loved by God. Being one of God's people is who the believer is. God loves us from day one and even before that. That there is a distinction between us and those who are not God's people, yes...
  7. Stranger

    Can you even imagine the huge load guilt and shame ??

    Sure, you are not arguing. The Scriptures I gave you do pertain as you didn't answer the questions that went with them. I didn't twist them. You want more Scripture? Yet you don't believe the ones I gave Oh well. (Acts 19:9) "But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but...
  8. Stranger

    Unconditional love ?

    There are no conditions for receiving God's love. He loved us before we were ever saved. Salvation comes through Jesus Christ because He loved us and that is what it cost Him to get us back. Exercising faith towards God is a product of His love, not a condition. He loved us before we...
  9. Stranger

    Unconditional love ?

    Jesus is not in covenant with God and the world. He is in covenant with God. The conditions to be met do not affect the love of God for His own. God loved them before He made the covenants. (John 17:20-26) In fact, He made the covenants because He loved them. As I showed you, the faith...
  10. Stranger

    Unconditional love ?

    God's unconditional love is no fantasy. You are quoting from a 'conditional covenant', the Mosaic Covenant. So of course it has conditions. But God loved us when we were sinners without Him. (Rom. 5:8-9) (1 John 4:10) You say 'faith is required, and that is a condition'. Well, even your...
  11. Stranger

    Unconditional love ?

    Years ago I and another believer were talking about how we had strayed away from God and how we wasted so many years in so doing, and where we could be now in our Christian life if we hadn't. And the other believer was becoming very distraught over it. And the Lord gave to me the...
  12. Stranger

    Can you even imagine the huge load guilt and shame ??

    I am not interested in convincing you. Just giving my side. Oh, I see. I am the one arguing, not you. Ok. But I don't mind arguing. Not everyone you speak to on Christian forums are Christians either. Was Christ showing love when He overturned the tables? And among believers you will...
  13. Stranger

    You can never lose your salvation!

    You err again. The promised land is not to be identified as Heaven. There is much fighting and war in the promised land once Israel got there. The promised land is a picture of the believer walking in victory over the many trials down here. It is a picture of the believer walking in faith...
  14. Stranger

    You can never lose your salvation!

    The point is your list of questions was answered. You couldn't answer my response to them. So you had to add to your question and your list. Now, you just refuse to answer. Just as you never answered my post #133. This begs the question. You think a believer can lose their salvation...
  15. Stranger

    Can you even imagine the huge load guilt and shame ??

    Concerning your first question, I already gave you Scripture. Did you not see it? Concerning your second question, I am not interested in answering. Nothing wrong with 'love'. Was Christ showing love when He turned over the tables in the temples and ran everyone out with a whip? You say...
  16. Stranger

    You can never lose your salvation!

    Then you need to change your question and list you gave in post #135. Shame you couldn't get it right the first time. Stranger
  17. Stranger

    You can never lose your salvation!

    Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. Stranger
  18. Stranger

    You can never lose your salvation!

    You create a long post and say nothing concerning whether or not one can lose their salvation. You give no proofs with the verses you give to indicate a loss of salvation. So, why so many questions to me when you are not addressing the issue. Your best effort was with (Heb. 10:26) to which...
  19. Stranger

    You can never lose your salvation!

    Concerning (1 John), John writes in stark contrasts of things such as good and evil, light and darkness, sons of God and sons of satan, etc. He is not trying to write any sort of theological treatise which he is trying to convince you by reason as Paul does. He is writing seeing things black...
  20. Stranger

    You can never lose your salvation!

    Your message is not grace. Your message is law. You have proved it by your comments. Thus when grace is spoken of, you reword it as you did, making it appear repugnant. Yes we all know what sin is. Sin is breaking the law...under the Old Covenant. What about now? What is sin? (Rom...