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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    LOL. I'm focusing on context. Both Matthew 24:35 and Matthew 24:30 related directly to the second coming of Christ, so the context of both verses is the same. If Matthew 24:35 shows a global context, as it clearly does, then that is how Matthew 24:30 should be understood as well. What do you...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    Nope. I don't buy this double fulfillment thing at all. The Israelites had already been called out of Egypt before Hosea 11:1 was written, so that verse was obviously not prophesying about the Israelites' Exodus from bondage. In terms of it being a prophecy, Hosea 11:1 had only one fulfillment...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    Both verses are talking about the second coming of Christ. Don't make something simple into something complicated. The context of His second coming is global. That could not be more clear, especially when you also look at 2 Peter 3:3-13 and compare it to Matthew 24:35-39. When did I say...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    Just read what I say. I'm being very straightforward. I said "Paul indicated that Christ's resurrection itself was the firstfruits "of them that slept" (1 Cor 15:20).". That means Christ's resurrection itself is the resurrection referred to when Paul references "Christ the firstfruits". That...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    How Many Judgements Of Being Cast Into The Lake of Fire Are There?

    This seems like you copied this from someone rather than coming up with it yourself. Is that correct? Regardless, the analogy makes no sense. Whatever the duration of the coming "hour", what happens during that hour is that the dead are resurrected. The dead are resurrected throughout that...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    So, He decided not to answer their question about when the temple buildings would be destroyed? You know, the temple buildings He had said would be destroyed shortly before the disciples asked Him questions that spawned the Olivet Discourse? Do you think that the following passage (and the...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    Revelation 1:7 is not the fulfillment of Zechariah 12:10-14. The similarities in some of the text in Revelation 1:7 and Zechariah 12:10 have thrown preterists like you off and made you think they refer to the same event. Futurists make the same mistake. But, they absolutely do not relate...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    No, it is not. Which is why you are alone in that belief. Oops. There's your first mistake. Paul indicated that Christ's resurrection itself was the firstfruits "of them that slept" (1 Cor 15:20). Which means His resurrection was the first resurrection in order of a certain type of resurrection...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    He's a post-trib and it's hard to imagine any post-trib (Amil and Premil post-tribs all included) disagreeing with the claim that Revelation 12:17 and Revelation 13:7 refer to the church on earth during a time when pre-tribs say that the church is in heaven.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    The last day is when Jesus said believers will be resurrected and when unbelievers will be judged. Do you claim that believers are resurrected in an ongoing basis for 1000 years? I'm sure you don't. Do you claim that unbelievers will be judged over the course of the 1000 years? I'm sure you...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    How Many Judgements Of Being Cast Into The Lake of Fire Are There?

    As usual, you are just spewing unhinged nonsense. No Amil has ever claimed that God has no mercy on unbelieving Jews of today's world. According to scripture, God wants all people, including all Jews, to be saved (1 Timothy 2:3-6). And there is always a remnant of believing Jews that God has...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    How Many Judgements Of Being Cast Into The Lake of Fire Are There?

    No, this thread is about how many different judgment events there will be when people are cast into the lake of fire. I say there will be one, which means I believe verses like Matthew 13:41-42, Matthew 13:49-50, Matthew 25:41 and Revelation 20:15 all refer to the same event of all of the people...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    Ah, yes, let's just ignore other parts of Matthew 24 for context, such as Matthew 24:35-39 referring to heaven and earth (gē) passing away when Jesus comes. Clearly, the earth (gē) in that verse should be understood in the same context and scope as Matthew 24:30. The earth in Matthew 24:35 is...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    Wrong. It was a very fruitful response, but you obviously don't understand his point. Who inspired the Bible? God. You're talking about the Bible authors not having certain knowledge at the time they wrote, but that means nothing. The God who inspired them to write down His word has all...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    I can't decide which is worse. The preterist nonsense that we see on this forum or the hyper-futurist, pre-trib dispensational nonsense. Both are ridiculous doctrinal systems that can't be taken seriously at all.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    There's a major problem with your preterist claim. There was no age that ended in 70 AD. Jesus spoke of this age in terms of the current temporal age during which people get married and they die and the age to come in terms of when the resurrection of the dead occurs and this age ends, bringing...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    LOL. You call the truth "rude". That's interesting. And I couldn't care less if you put me on ignore. That just means you ignore the truth. Scripture is very clear that Jesus would come a second time, not a third time. To say He already came in 70 AD is ridiculous nonsense and I'm not afraid to...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    How Many Judgements Of Being Cast Into The Lake of Fire Are There?

    You said one for each person, not one total. So, that could mean many different judgments for all anyone knows. You should have been more specific. So, you agree that there there will be just one judgment event of all people then? Right. Of course, that decision will have already been made...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    We are still awaiting His second coming, which is the blessed hope of the appearing of our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ. No amount of preterist nonsense can change that.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    You quoted scripture that had nothing to do with what I had said. And I already know how convoluted your beliefs are. LOL. You are completely delusional, as always. It specifically says He would come from heaven in like manner as He ascended there. The manner in which He ascended is explicity...