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An example; A&E thought and felt separated from God, they feared and hid. God on the other hand was proactive, he knew what the score was yet he went looking for them and provided them better clothes and promises....God was not separated from them. Another example; Jesus, who lives in light and...

Posting scriptures Keraz doesn't prove anything; you must know that from your experiences here! What matters is understanding the writings and joining the dots well.

every enemy is reconciled but not every enemy wants reconciliation....some would rather die than live.....most would rather die than live. 'Wide is the road that leads to destruction and many travel on it.....narrow is the road that leads to life and few find it'...Jesus

and who was shooting the bullet?.....and why cannot God forgive without sacrifice? .....because that's what real love does.

Apache1, ......I think God knew we would kill him when he came; I don't think getting killed was his objective. Jesus came to show us what God was like, his character and when we couldn't handle it and wanted to get rid of him he submitted to our violence. It showed us that God would rather die...

what a muddled understanding!

I should add, mans deliberate sustained choice......just like Lucifer, a deliberate sustained choice......as in Jesus' accusers emphatic attitude of 'we will not have this man rule over us'.......to the point of killing their Creator.

Here is a copy and paste of my question in post #59 'Isn't 'us' separated from God quite different to God separated from us? I guess that begs the question what is wrath, in particular, God's wrath? Do you think the scripture might explain it?' Paul explains God Wrath in Romans...

Did you take the blue pill strepho?

calling black white and white black has ever been the practice of those desirous of self glorification. :)

Your web spinning enables you to interpret anything anyway that takes your fancy. I'm glad gravity is more stable than that! :)

haha.....ahhh, perceptions! :)

has anyone seen my friend, quietthinker? :( Hello there loved one.....just come across your thread....nearly four months after its posting......keep your chin up and your feet on the ground :)

hey, you're perceptive Jay.....in fact, the bush has gone to me, it surrounds me like sometimes a warm blanket, sometimes a wet blanket and sometimes a wild blanket :)

your quote by Chesterton, "Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." - G.K. Chesterton' .....I suppose this describes the long suffering of God.

Sorry Ronald, you haven't heard the question.

What Does The Bible Say About Gambling??? Thou shalt not covet.....but who really wants to know when it's inconvenient?

You have spun such a web BOL you have caught yourself in it! :)

my mocking tools Ronald are aimed at your many presumptions...... nothing more :)

Interesting how you attempt to draw my conclusions for me, but I'll leave you with your assumed bullet proof explanations