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I am not redefining sin. Jesus' statement makes us re-look at how we define it.....and how he defines it.

so we come back to the question, how do you define sin?...and secondly, is the text you quoted saying what you stated above?

would you like to elaborate Epi?

You work from the premise that justice is punishment. Is that an accurate connection considering the advice is to turn the other cheek? .....demonstrating it by allowing his crucifixion.

John 6:5-11 reads like this, '5“But now I go away to Him who sent Me, and none of you asks Me, ‘Where are You going?’ 6But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away...

If the transgression of the law is sin why does Jesus define it as not believing in him?

How do you tell a person they have the book upside down, even back to front when they firmly believe they have it the right way up?

As long as we define God's justice as revenge as we understand in the fallen human arena, the dots we join are tit for tat, yet isn't how the devil operates/ rationalises. God's justice is of a different flavour altogether as is the definition of his wrath. Is there courage to question these...

I think you've missed the point. The point is that Paul is defining Gods wrath. He defines it by 'giving them over'. In other words, if we insist on and in our sinful ways the Spirit will not longer strive with us and we are left to the choices of our sinful ways which eventually destroy us...

Have you considered Epi a work in progress......much the same as yourself? The question of importance is not about the variations of how we see but rather, is Jesus known to us. If he is the variations of how we see takes on a flavour which is not blaming nor antagonistic. Light dispels...

Yes, I'm familiar with the explanations. Consider this, Jesus said, 'you have heard said....but I say unto you' Where had they heard said? Jesus is referencing the OT scriptures; that's where they had heard said. He then uses the word 'but' I say unto you..... In other words, what I'm telling...

Would you define Jesus as a legalist?

The wrath of God is clearly defined in Romans 1:18-32....specifically vs 24-28. This is the measure to understand the expression 'God's wrath'

Knowing the bible is quiet different to knowing Jesus. The difference is outstanding.

and the 'Word of God' is a living active risen Saviour. To confuse him with text is a right proper confusion.

Learn of me Jesus said, and you will find rest for your souls. Whatever else you think you know you can be assured that 'he who comes to me will I in no wise cast out....Jesus' Deception has a million forms. In my estimation one of the primary indicators is the need/ compulsion to make lots of...

What God passes us from and what we pass ourselves from are not reconciled/ viewed accurately in our fleshly existence except by faith. Faith, as I understand it, means trusting God's judgement on matters of life rather than my own. God forgives. He views humanity as forgiven not because of a...

So what.

that's pretty much a description of your posts, bd

Like I said, you are working it out for yourself. Your attempt to cross all the t's and dot all the I's is indicative of this. :)