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I don't see any evidence in scripture that indicates the son, was a created being. Hence why He was described as begotten, and in this instance at least, why the ECFs called the Father unbegotten. Begotten in scripture means in every case I am aware of, brought forth. Monogenes does have the...

And we know they're not for the purpose of maintaining health and wellness. The real purpose is illustrated quite graphically in Revelation 13.

I agree, although I am reluctant to promote those 3 persons as described in the early creeds as being perfectly equal and identical in all things. For example. We recognize quite readily that the Father is, in His inherent nature, immortal, therefore cannot die. The Son however, in His...

You are quite correct, and because we can in hindsight recognize the folly of his ways, we therefore ought to hesitate in using him as an example to follow, or use his behavior as justification for smoking today, whatever his excuse for doing so is that not so?

No. That's not what I'm saying. God sent His Son. That wouldn't be possible if He didn't have a Son to send. And that Son wasn't created. First born of creation can equally mean they source and beginning of all creation because He is the Creator. There is more scripture to substantiate that than...

Yes absolutely seriously. If Jesus, the only begotten Son of God wasn't God, then what was He?

Agreed. In fact I can't think of a person in the NT whose physical or mental issues weren't healed before his/her spiritual needs were met.

I see worship not so much as something we do, although that plays a part, but rather as something we are. Not a state of doing, but a state of being, and it is what we are that motivates what we do. There are secular people in the world who wouldn't dream of breaking God's commandments. While...

But he was wrong. His error didn't justify smoking for anyone else. It didn't even justify smoking for himself, it was nothing more than an opinion to justify his addiction. As I said, his gout would have been quite treatable with a change in diet. PS and I'm a little concerned that you would...

In other words, the Son of God somehow is a different species to His Father. Okay, thank you for your clarification.

Out differences regarding Babylon aside, you are way too paranoid. A. I didn't say anything against what the bishop was saying. I actually do agree with him. B. I didn't say for you to disagree with him. C. The Roman church, whether you think it Babylon or not, is still the principal power...

No. What I said was... And as an example...

You brought in the holy Spirit, not me. Should not a Son be in submission to His Father? Who says? The scriptures include the holy Spirit like this.... KJV Romans 8:7-11 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then...

I think that if I analyzed myself enough and delved sufficiently into the darkest recesses of my mind and uncovered all the secret motivations and ambitions that make backlit tick, I would come to the inevitable conclusion that I forgive others, not because of any innate holiness or sense of...

@APAK , clearly he isn't in the "know". The NWO is being created by the very organization he is a member of. Which is why God declared to such as him, come out.

I'm not confused at all. I may be confusing to you because you fail to understand, of refuse to. But I'm fine thanks. Jesus and His Father are both God. In the highest sense. How that works I don't know which is why I don't try to explain it. But it is.