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Demons are more at work in the church than anywhere else. Many people put their faith in the doctrine of demons.....because it appeals to the selfish flesh. There are religious demons. There is a power to take people away from understanding even the most basic words. I think that most...

A good thought. But united how? Remember that people came together to common purpose at Babel....and God was against this. What would be needed to bring unity in your view?

Go declares people righteous or not...otherwise they are self-righteous. And that goes for beliefs as well as works. Anything that causes a person to justify himself....even belief in Jesus's finished work on the cross...is still just self-righteousness. There are many excuses to justify...

We are what we do. And we reap what we sow. If we show mercy towards others, God will show us mercy. If we judge others then we too with that same measure we will be judged. The bible speaks of 2 kinds of righteousness....ours and God's. These are on different levels because of different...

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You mean works by the Spirit? Do you realize that the flesh and the Spirit are contrary to one another? Read Romans 8.

You could turn the argument around and say...anybody who thinks they are saved by their own belief is putting confidence in the flesh. Unless God intervenes directly you can't assume anything. Who is in charge really? Who is really in control? Doing things FOR God like starting churches and...

God decides who is righteous not you...you will have to get off your throne of judgment to see that however. :)

By their fruit. Read the bible without prejudice and you will see that God rewards even a cup of cold water... He accepts those who accept His people...He saves those who care for others. God is righteous.

The truth is that God is far more merciful than Calvanists are. There are few saints...but many righteous. Even a cup of cold water.... God has made it that a little bit of holiness in His people produces much glory for God in the making of many righteous. The sacrifice of Jesus was not...

Yes! We watch 3 of our grandkids a few times a week rather than a daycare. So we are intimately involved in their lives. They live just around the corner from us. :) It is a blessing.

OK...my name is John...married (32 years) with 8 children and 12 grandchildren (so far)... :)

OK I agree with your title to the OP Limited atonement means salvation by grace. Amen. Universal atonement means salvation by works. Amen. I agree with both of these statements. It takes spiritual insight to see that both of these are part of what makes the truth.

LOL...if the shoe fits...

There is no such thing as a dispensation of grace. The word for dispensation in the bible is made up of 2 words....(from oikonomia) oikos...which means household....and nomos...which means law. Paul is the steward of God's grace to preach the gospel to the nations. So then the dispensation...

You have a real problem. You want to blame a god you say doesn't exist. So then your problem is in your own mind.

You ignored my post to continue with your enslavement to a doctrinal stance. Are you here to display a doctrinal stance? Or do you discuss the validity of the biblical texts along with their meaning? I know you have shifted doctrines before, as you have previously stated....but you are not...

This means...not that we would be unclothed of personal righteousness...but rather further clothed with the righteousness of God. The white raiment we are to desire is the righteousness of saints. If we are unclothed then we are naked and shamed...having soiled our garments through sin.

The funny thing here is that your title is right. There is personal grace...what you call limited atonement. This is a gift of God and comes with a calling to holinessAnd there is universal grace, or what you call universal atonement, that depend on works...towards the brethren. This is the...

What about bullying at school...or genocide, you haven't mentioned those yet. People are cruel because they lack a relationship with God, who is love. We were created to love Him and one another. But people have chosen to go their own way. Is it any surprise that men should be reduced to such...