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Yes, because it too denies the existence of angels, including fallen angels called demons. Right. So, his way around that is to say that Jesus was just telling a parable there to teach a lesson and it didn't actually happen. But, those with discernment know otherwise.

I have NOTHING to learn from you. That is for certain. He was not made a little lower than men! That is utterly ridiculous to claim that! That is not what it says. He was not made a little lower than any man. He is higher than every man because no other person could sacrifice themselves for the...

@rwb Can you explain why you continually like posts like this where TribulationSigns denies the existence of created spirit beings called angels when you have said that you do believe in their existence?

How can @TribulationSigns get around this? I'm sure he will try. But, he says that evil spirits represent the evil spirit of man. How can one person have multiple evil spirits if that was the case? That wouldn't be possible. So, this, along with many other scriptures proves the existence of evil...

Is there no end to the number of false doctrines you believe in? In order to keep your doctrine afloat you have to claim that Hades and Tartarus are the same thing with no evidence to back that up. Your stubborn blindness knows no bounds. You go out of your way to deny truth repeatedly with your...

You are lying. You have not dealt with the rest of his post. Tell me, who are the devil and his angels referenced in Matthew 25:41 and Revelation 12:9? You say the devil is the evil spirit of man. So, do you think "the devil and his angels" are "the spirit of man and his spirit of men"? LOL. You...

LOL. Jesus was not made lower than the humans He died for! Are you kidding me? Where do you get that idea from? He was made human. You come up with ridiculous ways to deny every truth that is presented to you. Your stubbornness is unbelievable. Jesus was not made a little lower than the people...

To like a post doesn't mean you agree with everything said in it. He has made it clear in other posts that he does believe in the existence of angels and that they are spirit beings, unlike you. And I know he wasn't realizing what you actually believe (that angels don't exist, including Satan)...

No, Jesus said the rich man was in Hades, but 2 Peter 2:4 talks about the angels being in Tartarus. In English, the Greek words "hades" and "tartarus" are normally translated as "hell", but in the original text they are not the same. The reason the word is different in relation to the angels is...

Scripture repeatedly teaches the existence of angels (Who said they are feathered? - LOL), so how do you think they came to be. Just randomly? Hello? Your belief that angels don't exist is being DESTROYED repeatedly in this thread and in the new thread WPM created about this topic. I notice that...

Taking on human form just means they can appear to be human, but it doesn't mean they can actually procreate with humans. There is no clear evidence anywhere in scripture to support the idea that angels can procreate. I'm with WPM on this. I think that idea is ridiculous.

Agree. Why are people missing these obvious things? We have one person denying the existence of angels and another person saying they can procreate? What is going on here? It's hard to believe.

I believe it refers to all fallen angels and the text is figurative. Spirit beings can't be literally chained up. So, it's not talking about angels being literally chained up in a place called Tartarus. It's figurative text similar to when it talks about the dragon, Satan, being bound with a...

How does that force contradiction and confusion into the Word of God? You know you can't convince me of anything unless you back it up with scripture. So, do that. You clearly don't believe in fallen angels, so how do you interpret these verses... Jude 6 And the angels who did not keep their...

You need to tell @TribulationSigns this instead of giving a like to all of his posts and encouraging him to continue promoting his false doctrine that says angels, including Satan, don't exist (are not real spirit beings).

LOL. You crack me up over and over again. I can't believe you are for real. Your doctrine is being discredited repeatedly by scripture and there's nothing you can do about it. Hebrews 2:9 says that Jesus was made a little lower than the angels. What do you think, that Jesus was made a little...

WPM and I are revealing the truth very clearly to you and you are still rejecting it. The scriptural evidence against your false doctrine is overwhelming. How about you explain how Jeus was made a little lower than the angels if angels are human messengers. Hmmm? Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus...

Where does scripture say this? When we see descriptions of the day of the Lord we see mentions of His second coming, our being gathered to Him and His enemies being destroyed with the heavens and the earth being burned up. Where are the mentions of the day of the Lord being eternal? You are once...

Great point here. @TribulationSigns, how do you reconcile these passages with your doctrine? These passages clearly differentiate between men and angels, yet you try to claim that all references to angels (Greek: angelos) in scripture refer to men. Clearly, Jesus was not "made a little lower...

So, how can @TribulationSigns explain this one with his doctrine? He says the devil is the evil spirit of man. How can man's own spirit flee from him? That's not possible. So, this is clearly referring to the devil as a separate being from humans here. When we resist him he must go away from us...