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He (TribulationSigns) is not a Christadelphian, but maybe he has been influenced by the Christadelphian teaching about this? I'm not sure. In fairness to rwb, who was also quoted in the OP, he does believe that Satan is an actual, personal spirit being and that demons are real spirit beings, but...

Well said. How can @TribulationSigns get around this (he's the one who denies the existence of angels altogether, including Satan)? Scripture specifically refers to "the devil and his angels". He tries to say that the devil represents the evil spirit of man and says the same about demons. How...

You already addressed both Jude 6 and 2nd Peter 2:4 in the other post, so I have no idea why you created a second post when you already addressed both verses. Both verses (Jude 6 and 2 Peter 2:4) are about the same angels, so it's silly to act as if you needed to address the verses separately...

As usual, you make something simple very convoluted. I honestly feel sorry for you that you can't understand simple truths from scripture. Let's examine the actual context of the verse in question (Jude 6) by looking at the surrounding verses, which you did not do for some reason. Jude 4 For...

Show me where scripture teaches this.

Everyone can see that 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 specifically relates the rapture to "the coming of the Lord" (1 Thess 4:15), so any pre-trib who denies believing in a 2nd and 3rd coming of the Lord is being completely dishonest.

Obviously, Jesus came for the first time long ago. Pre-tribs like you separate "the Rapture" from the 2nd Advent. But, Paul said when the rapture occurs it is a coming of the Lord. So, you can deny it all you want, but you do believe in a 2nd and 3rd coming of the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For...

Do you not know how to quote people's posts and then respond to them? It took me a while to realize that you were responding to me here. Your response makes no sense to me. I'm afraid it's not possible to have a reasonable discussion with you because you are not able to express your thoughts...

If very obviously is correct. Paul didn't change the subject from 2 Thess 2 verse 1 to verse 2. He used the phrase "the day of the Lord" to refer to the topic he just introduced in the previous verse which was "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him". So, the day of...

I was not being impatient for you to answer. I was simply pointing out that you should not answer questions with questions. I am completely chill, bro.

Oh, I can't wait to see that. :rolleyes:

Actually, dispensationalism is a more modern invention from the mind of man, so that is not a good comparison in terms of comparing how long people have believed in each thing. I did not mention you at all when I talked about Tony Warren. I happen to know from previous posts that TS gets a lot...

Look how he is not even willing to take a few seconds to confirm that the answers I gave accurately reflect what he believes. What is he afraid of here?

This is an extremely lame response. I asked you two questions and you are asking me questions in response instead of answering them? Does this mean you have no answers to my questions? Are you just playing games here, hoping you can avoid having to answer those questions?

Which means you disagree with TribulationSigns on this, yet you seemingly keep agreeing with everything he says about this topic. That's baffling to me. I'm wondering if you are actually understanding what he says. You know he does not believe in such thing as an evil spirit being called the...

Jude 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 2 Peter 2:4 For if God didn’t spare the angels who sinned but threw them down into Tartarus and delivered them to be...

Do you think that God is no longer pouring out His Spirit on people? Do you think that people are no longer calling on the name of the Lord and being saved? That is what Peter said would be happening during the last days (see Acts 2:16-21), which had already begun before the day of Pentecost...

Do you hope to be with our great God and Savior Jesus Christ for eternity? What does that look like in our view? Where do you think we will spend eternity with Jesus/God?

No one here doesn't want that. This kind of post isn't helpful at all and contributes nothing of substance to the discussion. Are you afraid of going through tribulation and enduring to the end? Have you never went through tribulation and have you never been persecuted? If so, you're doing...

That passage does not relate to one being taken and one being left. The reference to one being taken and one being left is in relation to people who are alive when Jesus comes. One is taken up to be with Christ and the other is left behind and killed. The passage you're quoting there is in...