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Well, before the Son had not taken on a body, then He was eternal, not immortal. Scripture is clear, you must first be mortal before you are immortal. Even your own definitions proved that. Stranger

Concerning the Bible, I know Jesus is immortal. That is what I have been saying. What I also have been saying is that immortality in the Bible only pertains to those who were already mortal, to those with a body. Something you refuse to look at. Or you have looked at it and thus are...

I do agree. Stranger

Bloody flag Mary God doesn't condemn slavery, thus slavery is not the evil that you and others make it out to be. In this country slavery is illegal. If I say ok to any you present then that makes me a criminal. Third time answering this question. No, slavery was protected. There was...

Big difference between 'immortal' and 'eternal'. Your definition, wherever it came from, says eternal means 'without end or beginning'. But that isn't what it says about 'immortal'. And, as I said before, Scripture speaks of only those who are mortal as receiving any immortality. You...

I think we differ in some things concerning grace. I never liked the term 'easy believism'. Belief is neither easy or hard. It is there or it isn't. You cannot make yourself believe something you really don't believe. Just like you cannot make yourself love some one you really don't...

That is exactly right. Welcome to the forum. Stranger

Well, was John a believer? And Peter had no authority over him. Just like Peter had no authority over any other believer. Yes, concerning the 7 Asian churches you admitted the Roman church had no authority over them. But then again, in Scripture the Roman church has no authority over...

I am asking you, not me. As far as me, all Christians are saints. As far as you, what do you say? Or, what does the Roman Church say? You know you're crawfishing. Stranger

In order to be saved, or born-again, I agree Jesus has done it all, and it only remains for us to believe to be saved. We have works to do as believers afterwards, yes. But before we are saved, all our works, even good works, as far as lending anything to our being born-again, are as filthy...

What is your problem? Because God the Father is not or never was mortal, then He is not and cannot be immortal. So what? Stranger

Look above. Stranger

God the Father was never mortal. I thought I made myself clear with that already. Scripture speakes of immortality to those who are first mortal. It speaks to those with a human body. God the Father is not immortal. Neither is God the Holy Spirit. But God the Son is. Stranger

God the Father not being immortal does not destroy the Trinity doctrine. It makes distinction between God the Father who is eternal but never was mortal, and God the Son who became mortal, but is now immortal. In other words, your claim that only the Son is immortal does not mean that God...

(John 22:21) Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me." John was a believer, wasn't he? Jesus was telling Peter, don't worry about John. That is between Me and John. No authority of Peter here over other believers. Just like with the...

If only God can read the heart what is the Roman Church doing making saints of people? You still refuse to answer my question. Why? That makes two questions. Stranger

One must have mortality first to be immortal. God the Father is not immortal. He has always been and always will be. God the Son, Jesus Christ however, did put on mortality. And He alone hath immortality, and gives immortality. So, the Trinity doctrine has not been destroyed. Stranger

I'm sure you would call me a hyper-grace believer. But, my question was sincere. How is grace not hyper? I don't call myself a hyper-grace believer. Just grace. Stranger

(John 17:6) I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word." (John 17:20) "Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;" Stranger

How can 'grace' not be hyper? Stranger