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No, I can’t afford it. I have to pAint my own.

Psalm 19:4-5 KJV [4] Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, [5] Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

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Ephesians 1:5-7 KJV [5] Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, [6] To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. [7] In whom we have redemption through his blood...

Yes, some believe they are cultivating their own dirt.

Personal prepositions are so important.

His Faith being our justification.

You see @marks, when the Holy Ghost began cultivating this little piece of earth there was nothing but briers and rocks, this is how I can know anything good that came out of this ground is a product solely given of the power of Christ ( the Husbandman ). Gotta give all things to Him. For me to...

The debate on this thread is the power of Christ vs the power of the flesh. I’m going to always go with Christ. I personally don’t think that you’ll convince these three, ever, that they don’t have the power to believe or maintain that belief.

I believe we are in that age, the age of grace.

Well, clearly if is the big question. My question would be whom chooses to cultivate that earth?

I’m not certain why I’m even participating in this discussion it’s fleshy, devilish and earthy, which flies in the face of Scripture guoted in the OP. Those risen with Christ are dead and no longe have the flesh in focus. It’s seems though a few on thi thread seem to glory in their flesh.

You maintain that, the flesh of man can remove one truly conformed from Gods hand, I say scripture totally refutes this sophistry.

This scripture you’ve quoted in no way implies that the hearers have been made partakers, what Paul is telling these Jewish men is that if they return to Judaism then they had never received the Holy Ghost to begin with.

According to Ferris I have the power to pluck myself.

@Ferris Bueller how long now have you attributed your salvation to your own power? If you’ll take a deeper look, possibly you’ve yet to die, my opinion is that the scripture presented in the OP is suggesting that a man still focused on the earthly would be one focused on his own flesh and not...