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I suppose Jesus left the planet because there were too many whoremongers, murderers, people with wrong ideas about God, liars, etc etc?

Do you think it is possible that the expression 'everlasting fire' is reference to other than what you imagine it to be Jack?

You simply quoted someone's writings who wrote through a particular cultural lens about God. Understanding that lens brings insight; not understanding it makes God into a monster worse than Hitler.....in fact, it mirrors the devil. Do you understand that?

As per your request ... 1 John 1:5 'This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all'

Your understanding does not make the Bible mean what your understanding makes it mean just as the understanding of the Religious Jews in Jesus time did not make the scriptures mean what they understood it to mean. Jesus corrected their misunderstanding on many things.....and as Hebrews 1 tells...

your reply Jack, is the result of selective hearing!

What men have attributed to God does not mean or make God responsible. The understanding of the Hebrews was that God is responsible for both good and bad. They wrote from that perspective.....just as you write from yours. They were in error in this as they were in other matters also. Here's an...

Yes, you quoted scriptures but that does not mean you understand them. My 'fairy tale' is the logical extension of your misunderstanding.

Be assured, God does not create disability of any kind. He is the life giver, not the life taker. The Hebrews believed he was both however they were in error. Jesus tells us it is the devil who steals and kills and destroys.....not God. Disability is the fruit of disfunction somewhere in the...

....and God will look over the edge of the volcano gloating at their misfortune as the wicked flay around in the molten lava screaming in agony for eternity because of a mere seventy years of being bad......acting out their genetic disposition which they had no say in! Thank-you for drawing me...

farouk....will you please say something without making words and saying nothing!

demented moron I follow?.....who would that be?

Trump appeals to those who cannot discern metaphor from literal in the scriptures.......a steady march to 'fundamentalist' oppression no different to several Middle Eastern Countries. Could it be that the perceived 'baddies' are less oppressive than the perceived 'goodies'?

you sit in judgement yet are you there to give your superior advice?......ahhhhhh yes, armchair politicians! a dime a dozen swigging beer from their informed positions in front of the television......watching very carefully!

We can be certain that what many call 'manifestations of the spirit' are clever or not so clever counterfeits. Men are enthralled with 'magic' phenomena. The religious are quick attribute it to God. What sitting ducks men are!.....and why is that? Could it have something to do with refusing the...

All is not as it seems Pearl. I guess it is no wonder Paul tells us to let God do the determining. What often appears as black and white to men is not necessarily black and white to God. If there is any determining factor for us it is knowing them by their fruits. And what are 'fruits' ? This...

I sense ewq that you are debating for its own sake and not in order to get any clarity. I will leave you to your path.

Jesus said, 'unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no life in you'. Now that's pretty overt wouldn't you say? Do we now need to do some fancy footwork to apply that literally to believers as the RCC has done or do we hear/see his words as metaphor? The 'religious mind' can and...

I also understand that you think it's foolishness yet I would say, you think this because you haven't seen HOW the dots join in this matter. I was thinking the other day of what Jesus repeated frequently, ie 'if you have ears to hear then hear'. He is basically saying, there is more to the story...

I hear what you're saying bf. The thing is, it depends on context as to what is meant by various texts read. If you're interested, I'm happy to explain what I mean?