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You're probably right. And I do try and control to whom or what I respond to. But sometimes something just needs to be said. And, I never engage with anyone with the intent of them changing their mind. That never or seldom happens with any. I give my side for others to see another view of...

Indeed I do hold to a literal translation. No, literal translation allows for the use of metahphors, similies, symbols etc. , when used. Not everything in Scripture is a parable, as you want to treat it. And (1Thess. 4:13-17) is not a parable. As I said, you, in denying that Christ...

Indeed it is a tall order. Stranger

No, concerning your point #5, you didn't answer my question. Was Jesus Christ really taken up in a cloud as (Acts 1:9) says. And will he really return in like manner as (Acts 1:11) says? Stranger

There is no parable to explain concerning your point #4. In your mind you think you have done better than quote the Scriptures. But you havent. As I said, you are taking away from Scripture, not contributing to any understanding. Stranger

Actually I do understand what you're saying. Which is why I said what I did. In your point #2 you didn't even mention the resurrection. You just put some symbolic interpretation to it. And just as 'rose again' really means 'rose again' so 'descend from Heaven' really means 'descend from...

Your use of sky in your point #3, is wrong because Christ descended from Heaven. Trying to make descend not mean descend because the kingdom of God is within you is also wrong. Just like 'rose again' means Jesus 'rose again', so when it says He shall descend from Heaven, He shall descend from...

I truly don't want to offend you sister. If I have I apologize. Stranger

1.) More bs. You said in #26 you are starting with Christ's comments. Then you say in #28 you are not starting but finishing. You simply say whatever you think you can get away with. 2.) More bs. You state that 'rose again' meant that Christ is of a lower status. Then when questioned...

Since you have forgotten more than I have learned about the book of Job, why are you asking me these elementary questions. And why do you not know elementary things concerning Job? Read the book of Job at least, and then get back with me. Stranger

(John 10:26) "But ye believe not because ye are not of my sheep" (John 10:27) "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me." Those that are of God, who are His sheep, will believe and follow. Scriptures are clear. Stranger

1.) But, that is not what you said. Post #26 2.) So, what you said #26 was just......'fluff'? 3.) When it says Christ shall descend from heaven, how is that not geographical? What basis do you have to say it is only to a lower status? 4.) But those who are alive and remain are caught up...

(John 10:26) "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep" (John 10:27 "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" One doesn't believe unless he is a sheep. And if he is a sheep he will hear the voice of Christ. I haven't invented God. I have just given you the...

1.) You can't start with Christ's comment concerning the kingdom of God. The Kingdom is taught all through the Bible. What is that kingdom? And, again, how does the statement that the 'kingdom of God is within you', mean that 'caught up' doesn't mean 'caught up'? 2.) Does 'rose again'...

Context says "ye believe not because ye are not my sheep" (26) Which means those who are His sheep believe. Those who are not His sheep will not believe. Verse (27) just builds on that saying "My sheep hear my voice". They are already His sheep. Yes, 'context' and 'cherry-picking'...

I disagree with not just what you say about the rapture but your whole method of interpretation. What is the 'kingdom of God within you' that means 'caught up' doesn't mean 'caught up'? What is this kingdom of God? Does 'rose again' in (1Thess 4:14) mean rose again? Why? or Why not? In...

No, I accuse you of being the wordsmith because you manipulate the Scriptures as you did my comments. See again #414. Yeah, yeah. I repeat the same verse back to you because it stands by itself against you. "Ye believe not because ye are not of my sheep". (John 10:26) You want to put me in...

n2thelight Why do you believe (1Thess. 4:13-18) speaks to the Second Coming? Stranger

Indeed it is. Forums can be stressful. I appreciate your encouraging words. And you have things to add also. Stranger

Amen sister. Stranger