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So I agree with the above, except for... Which cannot be proved by the word.

For a church that is so in favor of hierarchal authority ( not saying it's right or wrong) it astonished me that the church you speak of had it's foundation in history to Roman bishops who gave up Christ as the Lord in favor of secular emperors. Relying on secular armies to enforce church...

The pre incarnate Jesus was not known as Jesus. What did the angels call Him? What was His name?

Identifying Michael as the tangible manifestation of Jesus is similar to what is known as a Christophany. The name “Michael” appears only 15 times in the Bible. Since ten of them are, for the most part, people listed in genealogies, it should be fairly easy to identify who he really is with the...

The people of God are directed to the Scriptures as their safeguard against the influence of false teachers and the delusive power of spirits of darkness. Satan employs every possible device to prevent men from obtaining a knowledge of the Bible; for its plain utterances reveal his deceptions...

@amadeus the scripture itself tells us that it alone is the basis for truth. The word of God that goes forth from His mouth is the power of God. KJV Isaiah 8:20 20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. The law... The...

Only a divine person could atone for a divine law. Jesus was the archangel, yes. But that term merely means boss of the angels. It doesn't mean he is an angel. I agree with you that Jesus is Michael. But there is no scriptural passage or text that describes Michael as a created being. The title...

I agree. It is a denial of the trinity, not necessarily a denial of 3 persons in the Godhead. I think we need to understand what the trinity doctrine really is. It isn't just the 3 in 1 concept. It must also include an indivisible unity such as whereby no one member can ever separate himself...

You are throwing out the garbage along with the meal. Yes, the Father raised Christ from the dead. Yes, fathers live before their children. But where you miss the depth and beauty of the good news is the sacrifice made by the Father and Son. The eternal risk taken by both in order to save worms...

Good grief, when did I claim anything close to that? Jesus established a church. The apostles were the foundation, Jesus the Rock of Truth it was built against as the chief Cornerstone. The apostles and disciples of that first church established as missionaries after Pentecost spread the gospel...

Who had Christ's authority? And again, what's that got to do with the post you were responding to #239? I was correcting something you had said previously, now your moving the goal posts and talking about something totally different. Not the first time I've noticed this. When you're stuck for a...

Your depreciating view of who Christ is, denies the Atonement. You make Him a mere angel. A creature. Let me explain why you deny the Atonement. Jesus gave His life. The reason He was authorized to do so was because He had life... Immortal self existing life, the same life as the Father...

It's sad and concerning how far they've shifted away from how they taught the Godhead 150 years ago. I thought we'd got over the issues of the 1950s with QOD.

In the very last days, (not yet but soon) what we see here... KJV Revelation 13:11-14 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and...

Your psychoanalytical approach denying my actual experience is merely your own desperate attempt to defend and excuse your own unbelief. In effect, you are calling me a liar.

I do not deny there are 3 individual member/persons comprising the Godhead, for that is what scripture reveals, as you said. But the trinity doctrine takes that further. And it takes it further into areas that deny the Atonement, and force assumptions that are untenable and unscriptural.

There is so much to question re this post. First, the assumption that people are less mindful of the issues than yourself. Just because you believe you are correct, does not guarantee others aren't more correct. Second, you say the three are one. Jesus prayed, KJV John 17:11 11 And now I am no...

A great deal of truth in this. And a great deal of what could be truth besides. In another context... Gross hate speech. Such intolerance. Transphobic I think you said. Homophobic also without doubt. And I bet you are an entitled middle aged or older white man with innate race issues, and...