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And I showed you a better way to understand it...from the perspective of people at that time. You are influenced by contemporary thinking and religious dogmatism. It blinds you to any possible understanding that goes deeper than the fast food treatment of contemporary attention spans as revealed...

OK You said I was falling into grievous error by translating Greek words (like the biblical arete) from the bible in their cultural context AT THAT TIME IN HISTORY but you allow the bible to be understood by an English dictionary in our much more modern context (as if the bible is fully...

It may be of interest to note that when a person is deaf they need to see a communication in writing. People who can't, don't or won't hear from the Lord directly are limited to the written word. Of course they will defend this way of communication vigourously, as this is all they have to go on.

This is a follow-up thread to the thread entitled "The Inner Man." Other ways of calling the natural man are ...the carnal man, or outward man. This subject merits a deeper study as the natural man, above all else, gets in the way of spiritual growth in Christ. There is nothing more difficult...

Paul tells us that we are to follow the traditions as laid down by the apostolic example. But what constitutes apostolic tradition? I will begin by saying that the primacy of spiritual life and anointing in church leadership is upheld in that tradition. In our time a lot of people won't even...

You are deriving biblical truth from non-biblical sources? You don't allow others to do what you permit yourself. Let's see...who was accused of doing that...in the bible?:eek:

The bible speaks of function...not offices and people with special titles and robes. If something is spiritual....then it is not something to be understood clearly in this world. The problem with the man-made institutions is that it appeals to the senses. As one of the leading young priests...

I'm actually not "making" anything as a human. But, your whole scheme is based on this. So who is really "making" something of it?

LOL...so you're saying you don't understand...but in your own carnal way of putting things. How can a person think they know what grace is...that never uses it in communication??? You really don't have a handle on what prompts your own behaviour.

You use private interpretation as your basis for forming a religious opinion. I don't think a human perspective means anything.

You are always taking away from the word...so it appears that way to you. I am INCLUDING the whole counsel of God...always.

You aren't seeing that iniquity didn't start in 2 Thes. Take a look at the thickness of the bible. Now start doing actual seeking through ALL of it. And praying helps too. ;)

You mean speculate as you do.. What I teach is based on the whole bible....or...the whole counsel of God. It has to work through both testaments and multiple angles. Once a 3 dimensional overview can be made...then you see it for what it is. If you only take one coordinate...you could be...

You and Dave are quite the pair. Your view is not according to understanding. Iniquity is holding the truth...but in unrighteousness. In Hebrew it is "Avon". It is the sin of the Pharisees.....religious hypocrisy. Many Christians can't see this because they are stuck so deeply in it.

Everything I say, apart from conversations, is supported with scripture. The fact that you can't see that tells me everything about how you perceive truth...or not. You are reading everything by a carnal understanding. So then if I quote a spiritual passage....you will not understand what I'm...

You will just say that whatever verses you don't understand are done away with. You have declared the ongoing covenant obsolete...from your own imagination and interpretation. Imagine claiming to believe in what you claim is obsolete. So it is impossible to convey any truth to you. You have...

Are you asking for my private interpretation?

Like a child in the back seat saying..."are we there yet"? But who is going to interpret "soon" in the spiritual eternal sense? The human mind?

Only those who deny the truth...at the depth it was written at. Like the Jews who had a zeal for God...but lacked understanding. What else do you want to call those who are religious but have no understanding of the truth? I call these "religious unbelievers." ...having a form of godliness...

But you have to do more than read the bible...you are to understand it. Your idea of "vibe" is a layman's term for spiritual and prophetic. To you these are meaningless terms. But to others....they point the way of truth. So rather than display your lack of spiritual life here...try to be...