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The detour around the cross has indeed become popular in our time. I am shedding light on a false doctrine....not accusing as you are actually doing....twisting things around to make it appear I do as you do. You have accused me many times. But that's ok....since you assume you have that right...

Google Dispensationalism...and read the posts again. :) It makes the flesh trump the Spirit. So then what is carnal is eternal...and what is actually eternal has no significance. So then we make provision for the flesh (Jewish flesh) and count the flesh as the most important factor in prophetic...

You are twisting things. When you seek to be justified by the law....you are indebted to do the whole law. Love fulfills the law. If I visit a neighbour...do I think...I mustn't steal. I mustn't steal? Or does love not consider stealing at all....but rather giving. So then love eliminates the...

So you think our physical attributes are eternal? Is flesh eternal?

The purpose of this thread is to help, encourage and edify. But as I said...the ego gets in the way of this simple process. If you identify with the old fallen nature...then you will think it is you that is being put down. But we are to put down the flesh. So it all depends what you identify...

Unbelief in racism??? Do you think there will be a heavenly France and Germany? The New Jerusalem is Israel, the Bride of Christ. Do you feel you are called to be part of the Bride or a guest at the wedding feast of the lamb?

Dispensationalists have a ulterior motive....besides the changing face of creation. They seek to avoid the cross of Christ by making it a "Jewish" thing. One must not lose sight of the bigger picture. Oh my. I can see the programming here...

This is a sham. You are the one accusing others of being lawless for not seeking to follow law. That is what I'm disagreeing with in your attitude. I also don't think that we are to follow law...by trying hard. So you are going 2 steps in the wrong direction. If you stopped accusing others of...

Jerusalem is for the holy. That leaves a lot of people out.

You are being thrown off by labeling here. The saints of all nations are Israel....and they will be among the tribes. It is a SPIRITUAL entity...the nations don't line up in eternity like they are here. A tall person is not necessarily tall in the future age. There are no men and women in the...

Actually your premise is simply the triumph of natural thinking over the spiritual. I would be glad to go over Romans 9 and 10! They say exactly the opposite of what you are espousing.

WELCOME! :)

It's possible....but that would be up to them. We do have free will. I just think it is a mistake to consider that inevitable....or "en masse" according to a prophesy that is aimed at the nations. You could start a new thread for the other thing...I would join in Lord willing. :)

It must be remembered that those who translated the Hebrew into Greek for the LXX would not have understood how the righteous could be cut off....so they changed the meaning. You need to drink from the source. :) . ז בֶּן-אָדָם, שִׂים פָּנֶיךָ אֶל-יְרוּשָׁלִַם, וְהַטֵּף, אֶל-מִקְדָּשִׁים...

Let's say we go back to the time of Abel. When his sacrifice was acceptable...the fire from God came down and consumed it. Now let's come back to our time. When our sacrifice is accepted by God...His Holy Spirit comes down as a fire upon us and we enter into His grace, life and power. That's...

God's judgment is greater. :)

Of course people can turn to God at any time. :) But this idea that somehow this is what the prophesy is about...I don't buy it. The Jews don't need a special invitation...again. Of course....the few remaining Jews can turn to Christ. But that is not what the prophesy is about. Quite the...

With Israel, yes. According to the Spirit. Not all are of Israel that are Israel. But God said to the majority...You shall NOT enter My rest. Not all are of Christ either that are Christian. That is the way it is with humanity.

C

You don't seek for the living among the dead. You are missing the spiritual nature of Israel here. I went to a youth camp when I was like 12 or so. At the end everyone received a badge of rank based on a native Canadian attribute...tenderfoot, brave, tracker, hunter and chief....as I recall...