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Sorry, it's you that claims "that man of sin" is to understood in the singular.

As I always say: "There can always be more than one lie, but there can never be more than one truth"- Earburner.

You are welcome! BTW, in today's world, do you see anything that once was a "church", and is being "carried" by a Beast? . You see it very plainly, but the false doctrines of "church-ianity" won't allow you to bring yourself to admit it or say it.

Have you ever considered that Israel once was "a church", being "called out ones"? . Remember, a church is ALWAYS spoken of in the feminine gender, even if fallen. KJV- Acts 7:38

If you follow the symbolic language of Daniel, you will understand that "beasts" represent world ruling Empires. You will see that same symbolism carried over in Rev. 13[2] And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a...

In my OP, that is my point, and that is what my research discovered about 2 Thes. 2:8-9 KJV- 2 Thes. 2:3-12 is to be understood in the plural, in the same way that we understand 1 Cor. 2:14- "the natural man".

Without the Person of the Holy Spirit of God living within you, you will continue in "your own thoughts and ways", as did the Pharisees, fulfilling Mat. 15:8-9 in your own self. Listen to this: By having the Person of the Holy Spirit within us, WE ARE MADE TO BE READY, without any Pharisaical...

2 Thes. 1:7-10 speaks plain enough, but by reading what you wrote, its evident that confusion reigns in your mind.

When were the saints glorified?? At your "Rapture" WHICH IS.... The 2nd Coming of Christ, in ALL His Glory, in flaming fire.

KJV- 2 Thes. 1[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, WHEN the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, [8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: [9] Who shall be punished with everlasting...

1. How about ALL who do not KNOW God and those who do NOT obey the Gospel SHALL be destroyed! "When"?

What remaining saints?? If they didn't partake of the 1st Resurrection, then most surely they will take part in the 2nd resurrection unto death.

Yes! That is what I said. You are saying that evil and the unsaved wicked are defeated after the 1000 years. Now, since the saints were raptured into Glory, what happens to the wicked unbelievers, who were not raptured?

"GISMYS" also doesn't understand the word "when", nor when, "when" is.

Oh, I see what you mean, when Jesus returns, we are Raptured, but when the 1000 years are finished, we and Jesus return and all evil is then defeated. I think that is what you are saying.

Again, will we be with Jesus in Glory or somewhere else in Heaven?

"Taken" doesn't understand the word "when", nor when, "when" is.

"Taken" has gone sideways with scripture, and has decided to come up with his own formula of belief about the Rapture.

OK, but you didn't answer my question. Will we be in Glory WITH Jesus, or somewhere else in Heaven?

^ will we be