CoreIssue
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They will be in the presence of Jesus in heaven in the marriage supper of the Lamb.Ok...when Jesus "raptures" His Saints, will be in the Glory of His Presence, or will we be somewhere else?
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They will be in the presence of Jesus in heaven in the marriage supper of the Lamb.Ok...when Jesus "raptures" His Saints, will be in the Glory of His Presence, or will we be somewhere else?
Yes! That is what I said. You are saying that evil and the unsaved wicked are defeated after the 1000 years.NO!! Raptured believers return with Jesus to set up His 1000 year kingdom and after the 1000 years and satan and all evil are defeated for eternity the earth will be cleansed by fire and made new back to perfection and will be the home of God with His family for all eternity!
Many wicked perish at the second coming and during the tribulation.Yes! That is what I said. You are saying that evil and the unsaved wicked are defeated after the 1000 years.
Now, since the saints were raptured into Glory, what happens to the wicked unbelievers, who were not raptured?
What remaining saints??Many wicked perish at the second coming and during the tribulation.
At the end of time the remaining Saints are raptured and everybody that is left on the earth dies.
1. How about ALL who do not KNOW God and those who do NOT obey the Gospel SHALL be destroyed!1.Many wicked perish at the second coming and during the tribulation.
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At the end of time the remaining Saints are raptured and everybody that is left on the earth dies.
2 Thes. 1:7-10 speaks plain enough, but by reading what you wrote, its evident that confusion reigns in your mind.
None.
WHEN? WHO? WHAT?
WHEN?- On a day of His choosing.
WHO?- Thee "Lord JESUS".
....uh? WHO? Christ?
....uh? No.
WHO?- THEE Lord JESUS.
WHAT?- REVEALED/ SEEN
REVEALED WHERE?
1Thes 4
[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the [B} clouds,[/B] to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Surely you know it was the LAMB OF GOD that was SENT out from God TO EARTH.
Surely you know it was the LAMB OF GOD, whom God SAID...CALL HIM JESUS, CALL HIM THE SON OF GOD.
Surely you know it was God who SAID;
JESUS would be a SON to God;
AND
GOD would be a FATHER to JESUS.
Surely you know, men "OF" the Earth CAN NOT SEE "CHRIST", BUT CAN SEE, thee "Lord JESUS".
Surely you know, IT WAS "JESUS" who came to Earth, and SHALL RETURN TO EARTH.
Surely you KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, The Clouds and The Earth!
2 Thes 1:7
Is simply giving fore-KNOWLEDGE...
THAT "Thee Lord Jesus" shall Descend from Heaven, and BE SEEN IN THE CLOUDS, BY PEOPLE "OF" the EARTH.
Surely you know, men "IN" "CHRIST" are NOT PEOPLE "OF" the Earth....
Surely you know, the Difference between BEING REVEALED "IN" the Clouds, and RETURNING "TO" the Earth.
Glory to God,
Taken
The gospel is the good news of salvation by faith.KJV- 2 Thes. 1[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, WHEN the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
[8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
[10] WHEN he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed)
in that day.
The rapture is pre-tribulation.When were the saints glorified??
At your "Rapture" WHICH IS....
The 2nd Coming of Christ, in ALL His Glory, in flaming fire.
"Taken" has gone sideways with scripture, and has decided to come up with his own formula of belief about the Rapture.
2 Thes. 1:7-10 speaks plain enough, but by reading what you wrote, its evident that confusion reigns in your mind.