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The Christian men of the Southern States who fought and died for their country. The Christian women of the South who supported them and died with them also. A devoted Christian people. Stranger

John G. Patton. Missionary to the New Hebrides Islands. Read his autobiography. Stranger

Why is it totally irrelevant when you're saying baptism is necessary for salvation, and you're using (1Peter 3:18-221) to prove it. The water didn't save them from drowning. And water is the salvation. Again, were Noah and his family believers.? And how did the water save them. Like...

1.) You cannot prove a 'false premise'. You just ignore the questions and the Scriptures I present. 2.) Did you just purchase them? Enjoy. 3.) Really? What do your elders and deacons and saints do in the Church? 4.) Nothing is said about damnation in the judgment of rewards...

Again, how did the waters save? And were Noah and his family believers or not? Please answer, Yeah, that is funny Stranger

Comprehension. I already told you. Your post #363. Again, how did the waters save? And, were Noah and his family believers or not? Why don't you want to answer these questions? Stranger

1.) You continue to ignore the question I asked. Which means your theology has no answer? The Roman Church has no answer. Because your theology is that of the Roman Church. And the Roman Church has no answer. 2.) Do you own a Bible? Funny you do not answer. Hurry and go buy one...

No, I can't argue with Scripture. But I can argue with you. You said in post #363 that we are saved by the ark. Now you change your tune and say the 'waters of Baptism save us." Again I ask, how do the waters save? And were Noah and his family already believers? Please answer. Stranger

1.) It's not a falsehood just because you say it is. You haven't explained the two peoples spoken of in (Matt. 25:32-34) and (Rev. 20:4-6). 2.) Typing too fast? Sure. Copying is more like it. Do you own a Bible? 3.) Says you, and the Roman Church. 4.) Wine all you want, (2Cor.5:10)...

1.) Again, the two types of people I refer to are the individuals of the sheep nations and those raised from the dead 1000 years later. Please address these. (Matt. 25:32-34) and (Rev. 20:4-6) 2.) Do you own a Bible? 3.) Says you. And the Roman Church. 4.) I don't have a problem...

Well, isn't the 'believer' to work out his salvation with fear and trembling? But the believer is already saved. Yet salvation is still a process. (Phil.2:12) " Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own...

No, they were not saved by the ark. They were saved by water. Whether you want to say 'through water' or I say, as the Bible says, 'by water', it is the water that saves. It is the water that pictures baptism, not the ark. So, again, how does the water save? And, were Noah and his family...

That is interesting. You change the salvation by 'water' to the 'ark'. Which destroys completly the illustration. If it is a picture of 'water baptism that saves', which it is, then how does it save? The ark is not the picture of salvation here. The water is. So, how does the water...

The opposite of 'saved' is 'not saved'. Not 'damned'. It all depends on the salvation you are speaking of. The believer is saved from the penalty of sin which is his initial salvation. He then has a walk of salvation, being saved from the corruption and affect the world has on him in this...

1.) The two types of people I am speaking of are those of the sheep nations before the thousand year reign of Christ, and those raised after the thousand years. (Rev. 20:4-6) So who are they? 2.) I don't see it in (Ps. 10:10) 3.) Yes, the Church does have the office of bishop. Just not an...

He did say so when He said, "...he that believeth not shall be damned." Why didn't He say 'he that believeth not and is not baptized, will be damned." Because 'belief' is sufficient to be saved. Stranger

No, the water is the saving value of Baptism. Not the ark. Scripture is clear. " saved by water" Was Noah and his family believers or not? Don't tell me,....it's just a metaphor....sure. Stranger

1.) Again, who are the two types of people addressed? 2.) We're not talking about (Ps. 10:10). We're talking about (Rev. 20:4-6). 3.) No, the Catholic Church exists without the pope. Without Rome. So, again, who is your pastor/teacher, elders, deacons, saints? 4.) Yes, I know, you...

Heaven and hell are not the subject in (1Peter 3:20-21) The eight souls that were saved by water were already believers. That is why they were in the ark. The waters of the flood saved them like baptism saves us, destroying the worlds affect on us and giving us the answer of a good conscience...

Jesus does not disagree. He said, in Mark 16:16 "...he that believeth not shall be damned". And I agree. Stranger