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What would be a strong case against eternal security?

REV renders it best: 18that they may know that you alone, whose name is Yahweh, are the Most High over all the earth.

^ This post. Not a Scripture verse in sight. To say God does not want anyone to perish is not to mean universalism is true. Not sure how tou suppose this line of rationalization supports OSAS.

Existence is not relative but absolute.

The same. Why would it be different?

Agreed. He chooses to limit himself to good actions, just actions, loving actions. Jesus said God is good. It is this philosophical foundation that led to scientific discoveries in the West but not the East, Middle East, etc. Islam rejects Jesus’ claim. It is worded that Allah’s hands are...

IMO, this is one of the strongest verses against OSAS. The pivot point is about our own going will and faith. If it be our will and faith is to God, then the circuit is complete. OTOH, if our will and faith is broken, the circuit is broken. Hence, verses like Hebrews 10:26.

Sure we do! False doctrine. Why do you suppose Christ said in John 15:4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you? It's because we might not remain in him. Do you think God will save us against our will?

What's not a metaphor is that God has limits. And I do not believe that the Spirit of God in us is a metaphor. Why do you suppose Christ said, Remain in me, as I also remain in you. John 15:4 Because we could NOT remain in him. This means our being a vessel to bring the Kingdom of God has...

Circular reasoning. The sky is purple. That's just how I feel about it. The question is not about how you feel.

That's how I see it also.

No question that God allows evil AND does evil and commands evil (destruction). And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. Jonah 3:10 KJV Making general statements gives me cause...

There are many threads that cover this. Please stick to the OP topic. Thanks.

The OP lists numerous limits. There are other Scriptural references to God's limits 2 Peter 3:9-10 says God is patient BUT the day of the Lord will come like a thief. This means his patience will run out, i.e., has limits.

I understand perfectly what he was saying. Just not reading into it as you. No. Everyone says I am. It is not a claim of deity and God never said it as I explained. No one says I am eternal but the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Jesus. Jesus claimed to be older than someone else. Not God...

Without a border, we aren't a nation.

This is a thread I've wanted to start for a long time. Merriam Webster defines blasphemy as the act of claiming the attributes of a deity, which necessarily means when we say we have Christ in us, we are making a blasphemous statement. And we are certainly limited. Yes, Scripture says that with...

The short answer is no. God did not forsake his son. I believe John 14:11 is the authoritative reference on the subject. Jesus was quoting Psalm 22. Various idolatrous doctrines require inventing the fiction of our divine Father abandoning his son, which he is in. This sets up a contradiction...

It depends. A good analogy is that God pilots the ship but does not dictate anything the passengers do enroute. God controls in big strokes, not fine details. Not a totalitarian, God setup up the fundamental laws of the universe, then essentially leaves it alone. Exceptions are called miracles.

Powerful statement but I reject the veracity of it. "Allow" implies one is responsible for the actions of another. This is invalid with certain hierarchical exceptions. https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/when-shes-not-your-bff.62242/