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  1. Stranger

    Love your enemies

    junobet I thought you told me you didn't accept the Old Testament as the Word of God. So why do you quote Ps. 86? I have no problem with Psalm 86, but I thought you did. Indeed the nations shall worship the Lord...after He destroys the wicked in them. Again, read (Is. 63:1-6). Why do you...
  2. Stranger

    Love your enemies

    junobet I don't know of anyone calling for the reintroduction of African slavery. I simply agreed with you that the Bible supports slavery. It cannot be used to demonize slavery. Slavery is a perfect description of the human race. Even now you are a slave...arn't you? (1Cor. 6:20) " For...
  3. Stranger

    Cain and Abel

    But Gal. 4:29 is talking about the natural births. (Gal. 4:22-23) " For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. " Then, (Gal.4:28-29) " Now...
  4. Stranger

    Love your enemies

    junobet Did God institute the death penalty or not? Gen. 9:6? Does God 'let' people have power? Or does He appoint people to power? Context is nothing to you. Your pacifism is your guide to interpretation. There is nothing in the context of Luke 14:26 to indicate that 'hate' is a...
  5. Stranger

    Cain and Abel

    Yes, of course they loved Cain. How could they not? But it seems there would come a time in Cains life where they would see his opposition to God. And after he killed Abel, I wonder if they loved him still. Gal.4:29 is interesting. Mainly because it is not talking about a 'spiritual'...
  6. Stranger

    Cain and Abel

    I have a question. Without a doubt, Cain was not a child of God. Did Adam and Eve love Cain? If so, is that a mistaken love? Stranger
  7. Stranger

    Love your enemies

    Jesus did and does practice what He preaches. Had Israel received Him as their Messiah He would have brought in the Kingdom and destroyed not just the Roman Empire but all nations against Him. He will still do that at a future date when Israel turns back to Him as their Messiah. In the mean...
  8. Stranger

    The Dueterocanonicals: Myths vs Facts

    Sure there are apocryphal books in the Catholic Bible. They are: Baruch, Bel and the dragon, and Susannas virture(deceptively integrated into the book of Daniel..Dan.3:24-90, and ch.13 and 14), apocryphal additions to Esther found in Chaper A:1-17, chapter B:1-7, Chapter C through chapter D...
  9. Stranger

    The Dueterocanonicals: Myths vs Facts

    kepha31 No, what is an invention is the Roman Catholic term 'deuterocanonical'. A made up term to identify certain apocryphal books they accept as opposed to the ones they don't. Now, as I have said, you want to label some books all accept as inspired by God, as deuterocanonical, so as to...
  10. Stranger

    The Dueterocanonicals: Myths vs Facts

    kepha31 Again, Deuterocanonical and Apocrypha are the same. What is a prop is the Catholic Church trying to make some distinction between the Apocryphal books they included and the ones they don't. Hebrews, 2nd Peter, 2nd and 3rd John, James, Jude, and Revelation are not another canon, and...
  11. Stranger

    Secession should be considered and allowed

    Yes the Constitution and the Supreme Court protected slavery. And my point was that it was the South that fought for the Constitution, not against it. The North did fight against the Constitution. So who are the real 'traitors'. No, the South didn't secede because they knew slavery...
  12. Stranger

    Love your enemies

    The dove, olive branch, and rainbow doesn't take away the effect of the flood which was the destruction of the whole human race except for 8 souls. And the dove, olive branch, and rainbow doesn't take away from the fact of the death penalty being instituted by God. All are true. Your...
  13. Stranger

    Love your enemies

    The death penalty was implemented before the Mosaic Law. So, though we are not under the 'law', the death penalty is still in affect. The death penalty was instituted to mankind as a whole, not to the Church. And it has never been revoked. And, the death penalty is guided by love, the...
  14. Stranger

    Love your enemies

    ` How does the death penalty reflect the healing and forgiving spirit of Christ? It doesn't, and it's not supposed to. (Gen.9:6) "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." Christ never attacked the death penalty used by the...
  15. Stranger

    Love your enemies

    I agree. For the believers to have the political peace to be able to dwell in safety, you have to have war. And you must be willing to go to war to maintain that peace. If the Christian doesn't want to do it he better hope someone else does. Stranger
  16. Stranger

    Love your enemies

    Why do you call me a warmonger? The death penalty is not warmongering. Defending your family is not warmongering. Defending your country is not warmongering. Just because I don't buy into your pacifism doesn't make me a war monger. I believe the Kingdom of Heaven is that literal 1000...
  17. Stranger

    Love your enemies

    Yes, we as Christians are to love one another. Indeed, a 'new commandment'. Then you resort back to the other commandment of the kingdom, which is love your enemies. The two are not the same. No one is Christian who accepts Christ with only their lips. It is something they believe. If...
  18. Stranger

    The Dueterocanonicals: Myths vs Facts

    Kepha31 Deuterocanonical is another name for 'apocryphal'. It is just Roman Catholicism's way of trying to separate the apocryphal books they accept and the ones they don't. So now you want to try and identify books that protestants have in the New Testament as 'deuterocanonical' to give...
  19. Stranger

    Love your enemies

    No, I don't think that at all. But I gave explanation in reply #36 to the Sermon on the Mount. I do take it it literally, just like I take the Mosaic Law literally. I just recognize we as Christians are not under either the Mosaic Law or the Law of the Kingdom. Aunt Ethel was never...
  20. Stranger

    The Dueterocanonicals: Myths vs Facts

    List for me the apocryphal books of the Old Testement. Stranger