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  1. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    Well you are right. Matthew 1:24-25 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus. Luke 2:4-5 Now Joseph also went up from Galilee...
  2. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    No I have the Law dead on. It really does not matter if it was monogamous marriages or polygamy or concubinage, the Law regulated all of that. God did not say that the Mosaic Law was to regulate sinful practices. In the OT Yahweh was not shy about pointing out what was sinful. Sinful practices...
  3. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    Well I am not going to say that the Mosaic Law was defined by men. Was it part of God's plan for the Israelites to increase in numbers and dominate the world? Was polygamy and concubinage part of that plan? Accelerated reproduction. One of Yahweh's reoccurring promises was that their descendants...
  4. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    Maybe the reason that the Protestant churches fractured into a thousand of pieces and could never figure out the Bible is because it was founded in hate. That is a maybe. But hatred is never a good spirit to formulate your beliefs.
  5. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    The point is that after the biblical era Christianity has been given beliefs that are of a higher morality. The NT speaks of women not talking in church....not asserting authority over men....that men are the head over women....washing the feet of people....the Apostles were still addressing...
  6. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    Things we learnt that were not good. All this stuff in the Mosaic Law was God ordained. The Mosaic Law is not a list of unapproved behavior or practices. Old Testament marriage arrangements continued in Christianity for over a millennium. The whole explaination of a man is head over a woman is a...
  7. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    Slavery is not a job seeker's choice. Slaves were bought and are property. Just like they were in early America. There is no upside to slavery. The Mosaic Law clearly institutes the death penalty for beating a free man to death; in contrast, beating a slave to death was to be avenged only if...
  8. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    Very aware of this. Jewish Studies at American University and Hebrew University in Jerusalem. For a funny! Look at the wedding processes that Christ talked about in his stories--parables and then find those processes in the Mosaic Law or Old Testament stories. Then I will tell you why you...
  9. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    The Mosaic Law gave the woman no choice.....even in marriage....the woman was bought or bargained for. Women were required to marry within their own tribe. A father was required to give a virgin daughter....if not her new husband could kill her....damaged goods...property.
  10. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    No I am talking about concubinage. Mosaic Laws regarding concubinage Exodus 21:7:11 Leviticus 19:20-22 Mosaic Laws regarding captured virgins Deuteronomy 21:10-14 --- No such thing as a captured non-virgin because they were killed. Probably no reason for God to command someone to have...
  11. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    If it makes you feel better~~~but it does not hold water. You can go right down the list of why it does not hold water.... But it is just enough to say that God had to have a reason for the cruelty of the Mosaic Law.
  12. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    The Catholics are painfully aware of it. They are well past denial. The sad thing is that any good they did is lost in the memory of evil.
  13. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    Well, besides the dry humor....it has a point. Keep in mind your mom is / was a female.....a human too. Fundamentalists are not usually historians. Which means more or less going back to the Bible...scriptures....written in a different time period. But not knowing what is going on in that time...
  14. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    The feminist movement is not from God...and is not biblical. The abolishment of slavery, is not from God....and is not biblical. The abolishment of polygamy, is not from God....and is not biblical. The abolishment of sex slavery, is not from God....and is not biblical. The custom of wedding...
  15. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    Ya, another one of those things..... Women, wives and daughters were required to wash feet....family and guests....back then it was feet....now its washers and dryers and vacuuming and dinner and dinner dishes. Good thing they know their place....Ahhh! No shoes....bare feet or sandals equals...
  16. Grailhunter

    Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

    I think that is what they were defining.... Washing people's feet I think is pushing it.
  17. Grailhunter

    Don’t fool yourself into believing that one party or ideology represents Jesus more than another.

    That is the definition of Homosexuality... Not the biblical definition of a sinful act. For example alcoholism...an alcoholic is always an alcoholic whether they drink or not. A kleptomaniac is a kleptomaniac whether they steal or not.
  18. Grailhunter

    Don’t fool yourself into believing that one party or ideology represents Jesus more than another.

    Exactly It is nothing new. In the biblical era homosexualality and effeminate things were normal. The Jews killed them in accordance with the Mosaic Law. Today they can take medication to stop the sex drives...or castration. Castration....Christ's advise....pluck out your eye or cut your hand...