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Abraham believed God and it (faith, not works) was accounted to him for righteousness. How many years later AFTER was it in Genesis 22 that Abraham offered up Isaac on the altar and was said to justified (shown to be righteous) by works? (James 2:21) It was several years later. You just cannot...

Yet faith (apart from works) is what accounts us as righteous (Romans 4:2-6) and by works we are shown to be righteous. (James 2:14-24) You place the cart before the horse. You certainly have failed to understand and it's not a big mystery why. Been there, done that. You are on the right track...

You wrongly define Biblical faith "as" works. Been there, done that. The Greek words for faith and believe are "pistis" and "pisteuo" and are two forms of the same word. "Pistis" is the noun form, "pisteuo" is the verb form. Nothing in the root meaning of either word carries any concept of...

I already thoroughly explained this in post #1133. What did Paul say in Romans 5:1? Therefore having been justified by faith (plus what? plus nothing) faith (rightly understood) in Christ alone. (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9) You fail to understand that James is discussing the evidence of...

I read the entire chapter. Pay close attention to the parable of the weeds among the wheat. Matthew 13:24 - Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field." 25 But while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds...

We are justified (accounted as righteous) by faith, not works (Romans 4:2-6) and we are justified (shown to be righteous) by works. (James 2:18, 21, 24) You need to remember that James is discussing the evidence of faith (says-claims to have faith but has no works/I will show you my faith by my...

It is a straw man. You tell me. You are the one who preaches 'non-death sins vs. death sins' (similar to venial sins vs. mortal sins in Roman Catholicism) and 'type 2 works salvation.' You seem to feed on straw man arguments and even slander at times. I'm not against striving to live a holy...

CONTINUED.. As I already shared with you, the NASB reads - Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. (Hebrews 12:14). To be sanctified is to be set apart/made holy. The writer of Hebrews is not talking about adding personal holiness as a...

I have learned a lot after many years of debating with works-salvationists/sinless perfectionists/eternal IN-securists. ;)

CONTINUED.. As I already shared with you, the NASB reads - Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. (Hebrews 12:14). To be sanctified is to be set apart/made holy. The writer of Hebrews is not talking about adding personal holiness as a...

CONTINUED... Here it comes. Type 2 works salvation. When Paul uses the term "justified" he is referring to the legal (judicial) of God by which He accounts the sinner as righteous. James however is using to term to describe those who would show the genuineness of their faith by the works that...

That OSAS is a "sin all you want doctrine" and OSAS believers are "justifying sin and evil" is a straw man regardless of your "holier than thou" and "justifying non-death sins vs. death sins" rhetoric. Screen capture it all you want wise guy. I did not hear Eternal Grateful say let's just "sin...

You have overplayed this straw man argument.

I see a lot of eisegesis in your posts and your theology does basically leave everyone doomed! “Sin all you want” is the common straw man argument from the NOSAS camp. I believe God’s word in Romans 8:30-39, but apparently you don’t. You sound like an advocate for “sinless perfection.” Says...

According to you the Bible teaches this, yet false religions and cults that pervert the gospel absolutely teach against OSAS which is a major red flag.

Jude is exhorting believers to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints (vs. 3) because certainungodly men who have crept in unnoticed. Jude further describes these ungodly men as ones who cause divisions, worldly-minded, devoid of the Spirit (vs. 19) In...

ALL false religions and cults that teach salvation by works reject OSAS. Certain SDA's are a perfect example. So how many sins does it take? None of us are sinless, without fault or defect, flawless 100% of the time. Those verses need to be read in context. Psalms 37:28; John 10:27-28...

Discussions on OSAS always end up in a "holier than thou" showdown from the NOSAS camp. :rolleyes:

No amount of SDA eisegesis can change the fact that Galatians 4:4 clearly states God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the law/subject to the regulations of the law, to purchase the freedom of (to ransom, to redeem, to atone for) those who were subject to the law.. False. Your...

I've seen people abuse and misuse the words of Jesus "go and sin no more" in John 8:11 in order to teach "sinless perfection." Yet Jesus was telling the woman to go and leave her life of sin, namely, she had been practicing adultery. Also, Jesus cannot compromise his perfect holy standard, so of...