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So then the Israel of God are all those who overcome by faith....whether Jew or Gentile.

Then yes...they are Christian according to your definition. They have placed all their faith (human belief) in Jesus for their own salvation. It's a free country...the weirdest people can place their weird faith in whoever they want...including Jesus.

Define Christian...

Are there 2 bodies of Christ?

There is a lack of real faith in the church today. There are many smaller, more hidden miracles....but God likes to hide Himself...away from the thrill seekers. But this does not excuse the lack of faith we see today. We lack the faith because we lack the LIFE that produces that kind of...

Their "faith" IS a human belief.

Do you think there are 2 Holy Spirits?

Human belief is a concoction of religious opinion...political ideology, and human preference. Whereas real faith causes a man to walk in the very presence of God in His love, joy, and peace...a human belief just makes a person stubborn and causes him/her to go looking for other people to vent on.

WBC reflects a significant religious undertone found in many churches. It is religion without love. For the most part there is not a lot of difference between their extreme views and what many espouse. This is what happens when the church strays from spiritual life in order to justify a human...

Look for a building with a pointy roof....sometimes there is a bell or bells. It's open for an hour or so a week so you have to pick the right time. Look for a man in a white robe or someone with his collar turned backwards.......just sayin'

Are you from Westboro baptist? You have that flair for the religious.

That is false. There are things that are done properly....even without power from heaven. Can a person fix a car properly...and yet not do it by faith? Can a person save a man's life and not be a believer? Have you learned nothing from the story of the good Samaritan? If we were to replace the...

Who is judging the motive? You?

The Body of Christ IS Israel...the Israel of God. read Hosea chapter 1. Read Ez. 37. There is but one flock.

Of course that's false...and very religious. You are taking the verse out of context. For the believer...we are not to mix. But you can't impose a spiritual law on a person who has not been given the Spirit. That would like asking a child with a tricycle for their driver's license and...

...not as believers. There is but one Body of Christ.

But God has upped the ante so to speak because of grace. Where more is made possible more is required. So then we are to operate at a higher level than an OT saint. If we only do what men can do without the Spirit...then we will not measure up. What is very evil in this time is to take an...

There are sins of the flesh.....the soul, and the spirit. We are a bit complex as we do things improperly and mix in what makes us up ....the mixture between the soul and spirit being the worst kind of sin. Transgression is what we do physically wrong. But it is the soul following the body. So...

Well the forum could soon be divided into 2 camps...the "pro-like" being my choice.