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All your assumptions are false, here. It defies belief that a mighty chapter such as Romans 8 supposedly teaches that faith in the wondrous work of Christ still is not supposedly enough to assure a believer of salvation and eternal security. There is frankly no point in continuing this discussion.

@Rita Ephesians 6 has the Whole Armour of God passage! :)

The so called Deuterocanonical books are not part of inspired Scripture.

@FluffyYellowDuck Well, a lot of ppl do seem to think it's better to be vaping than smoking cigarettes; my own thought is that "moralizing" against itmakes little sense; but if from a practical perspective vaping can help people quit nicotine, then maybe it has something to commend it. (I guess...

Look at the end of Romans 8: verses 38-39 definitely do not teach that one can be saved today and lost tomorrow.

@denchikchyb FYI.....thread started...

@denchikchyb FYI....thread started...

Logic is a funny thing..... :)

Hi; I guess it's as a means to help quit cigarettes....

If we read Ephesians 2, we see that the work of God is so powerful; He does not stand helplessly by.

I agree; not a question phrased in the best way...

@FluffyYellowDuck Thought you had ordered one already... :)

@FluffyYellowDuck FYI.....can't remember if you saw the poll....above...

@Naomi25 Although I'm dispensational, I do think the Fundamentalist tendency to "moralize" excessively and seemingly to elevate matters of subjective preference to supposed theology is unhealthy. I remember near 40 years ago, earnest young men being baptized by immersion might just naturally...

@Cassandra The Resurrection is seen as the fulfillment of the Feast of Firstfruits....

@Cassandra Not sure... I know the great preacher Spurgeon smoked. I really don't buy that it's supposedly a moral issue. (I think the moralizing is more a legacy from the Progressive Era issues which Fundamentalists latched onto after World War One, imagining that the idea immediately in...

@Cassandra Thanks for your great contrib.! :) Glad it worked......I guess you don't have a craving for inhales now.