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I have been trying to help you out of that ditch but you keep refusing my help.....:(

Got it...You had a weak moment. I forgive you. :rolleyes: Mary

The bible is silent on "infant" baptism but it does say that entire households were baptized. Do you think there were any "infants" in a household in the 1st Century? Luke 18:15 says, “Now they were bringing even infants to him....Also, Jesus said Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to...

Yup.....YOU have the word of Christ in YOU and YOU have all wisdom........the men of the CC or any other Church that YOU disagree with are wrong.....you are always right.....:rolleyes: Romans 10:3 Mary

OK.....you still meet the other criteria: posting digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community.... Mary

Hi, I never said that the word 'symbolizes' is 500 years old. I said your theory is that old.....stop twisting my words. I agree with you that Scripture is USEFUL (not the only method) for instruction, for correction, and for training in righteousness. So I will use Scripture (OT and NT)...

Your pot and kettle snipe has nothing to do with you listening, better understanding or better love of anyone. It was trolling.....;) troll (/troʊl, trɒl/) is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive...

hi, Nice twisting of Scripture. Your "symbol" teaching is about 500 years old. You are following the tradition of Protestant men. I am sure there is no way to change your mind on that passage so we should look at other passages concerning baptism. Get up, be baptized and wash your sins..... If...

Pot and kettle meet troll ;)

Your OPINION is that division in Christianity, which is what the Reformation caused, is a good thing. That is a bizarre opinion and OPPOSITE of what Scripture says and what Jesus prayed for. Can you see why if is difficult to have a serious conversation with you when you deny FACTS and spout...

Scripture says even baptism doth also now save us. You say it doesn't save. Your OPINION is opposite of Scripture. Can you see why it is difficult to have a serious conversation with you when you spout your opinion instead of facts? Mary

Hi Phoneman, Please provide these "remarkable" quotes from those Early Church Fathers that back up your statement. I love history and the ECF's but I am not familiar with precisely what you are alluding to. I was hoping you had those quotes ready to cut and paste so I can easily find them...

Read post #6 by @BreadOfLife for the best answer. I suspect we won't hear from you again. You said what you wanted to say and will soon disappear.....

You failed to answer my question. The reason you failed is because opinions, such as the ones you have articulated, are not based on facts. The FACT is you accept some of the traditions/teachings of The Catholic Church and you didn't even know you were doing it. The FACT is you accept the SOME...

LOL....the argument about "what should be in the Bible" started 500 years ago. There is no "argument". There is only ignorance and a denial of authority. I am suggesting opposite of you.....I am suggesting that we all stop debating this and accept the teaching of The Church. If we don't stop...

I did read that but forgot to mention it.....Thank you. I suspect @Enoch111 doesn't care WHERE he gets his "truth" from as long as it is anti-Catholic 'truth'!!! ;) Historical Mary

It doesn't matter what individual Catholic's on the three continents have to say about earning salvation. It only matters what their Church says. If they don't follow the teachings of the CC they are Catholic in name only. A protestant, such as yourself, can shop around and decide what they...

I don't care what Maria means.....;) Mary

Thank you for your opinion.

I wish you would know Christ, truth and scripture so you would be free. I am not angry.....just sad that you deny The Truth.