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dude your stuck on one verse out of millions. the context of that passage is producing fruit.. Jesus said our works will be tried by fire.. If our work endures, we will recieve reward. if not. we will suffer loss, but we ourselves will be saved even as through fire. You falsley accuse me...

1 John 2: 3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him...

Amen Sealed until the day Not sealed until we fall away

You change the words of Never to maybe not. and eternal to conditional. I have not changed the words at all. The passage you are talking about is not discussing eternal life. it is discussing Sanctification. or fruit bearing.. Context context..

Just another way of saying you have to. I have to abide if I fail I will lose

No I would like you to translate those passages properly. And admit they are a result of being saved not down to earn salvation

Does god save you completely when you are born again Or do you have to do something to keep or maintain it?

No but you said receive AND…. You say you must do the “and” to keep eternal life That’s the definition of earning it

They know sin is sin. We just have to get them to confess it and get to the root. And come alongside. I agree. To many churches enable because they are afraid to Confront

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift ofGod is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord You can’t earn eternal Life by doing anything. It is a gift You either received t in faith or you reject it in unbelief

You did not prove a falsely accused you To falsely accuse something is to say they said something or believe something that is not true. You have done that to me multiple times by the way I asked when you would trust God to Completely save you and proved you have not done it yet by showing...

Wrong We receive eternal life when we place our trust in him It’s a gift. A gift can not be earned

Show me where I have falsely accused you Did you or did not say salvation is not purchased from Christ from the time you are born again until the time you die? In other words he has not completely saved you yet?

The peace that surpasses all understanding!

Like you do the word eternal and never? you are running from the promises of Gid and attacking me because I base my hope on those promises

A child of God can not fall away God will not let them any More than you would let your child jump off a cliff People can have the gospel. Not respond to it and then fall away from the gospel having never received it. They were never made a new creature Jesus sheep FOLLOW him Have you ever...

Lol. He died 2000 years ago He knew what sin you would commit when you were born He knew everything you would do after when he saved you Again why do you not trust God to completely save you?

See here you go It is all about you no God You have to do this When you use the word I. You need to run because I is self serving. The Pharisee said I. The tax collector cried to God. He did not say I. He said God (you) have mercy on me. Because he had nothing to offer. He was guilty

No I do not because god said he will not let me go. I will never die You may be like me and believe a licentious gospel is a false gospel. However you go 180 out and turn the grace of god to legalism

YES, Restore them how do we do it? Love them.