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when, can you show me where Peter repented? Again, can you show me where he repented?

2 Timothy 2:13 If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself. My salvation is not my promise. it was not paid for by my blood. it is not something i can do. it is something God paid for and promised. if he became unfaithful in his promise to me, he denies himself.

Thats because they wife did not really love her husband, If she did she would never have departed just like people who left God never really trusted him.. or loved him. They played the game, and because they never truly experienced Gods love, they eventually walk away..

Yep, And what Did Jesus do. reject him, or restore him?

So God can fail?

why? Why would you lose faiht in someone who never did anything to let you down? Yes, we turn away because they became untrustworthy or unfaithful. Is God untrustworthy or unfaithful?

Jesus paid the price. He will not however force you to recieve his gift. He want you in faith to recieve it. John 1: 12 But as many as have recieved him to THEM he gave the right or power to become sons of God

I ask you again What causes me to lose faith in people or things..

lol YOU.. Stop trying to do it yourself. and let God save you

No Jesus said if you want to produce fruit you need to remain. Me remaining in the vine will not pay for my sin.. The penalty of sin is death. Not Abiding in the vine.

So its all of your power. Not of Gods power. thank you, that is good to know.. I will trust myself more..

I asked you one I will ask you again. What causes people to lose faith in other people or things?

then we were not given or imputed his righteousness. we are left to our own righteousness The grape vine is about producing fruit. Not about being saved. you were saved the moment you were attached to the vine.. The fruit is what you do because you are attached to the vine..

Nope those people are trying to save themselves by abiding. they are not abiding because they are saved.

It says sealed UNTIL the day of redemption (there are actually three places it says this Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. (were a completed action) Ephesians 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of...

lol.. then they were never saved yet Your not saved UNTIL you recieve him. he meets you face to face.. Many try walking to him, and are even drawn to him, but never make it..

YES this is why we are PERMANENTLY SAVED completely Not because we are or will be righteous. But because HE WAS RIGHTEOUS. and [aid the price of redemption on the cross.

I would say it is Gods promises that is in contention.

lol.. there is one gospel/. not two.

So is Jesus walking away from us while we are coming to him?