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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Get rid of the NIV. Put it in the TRASH CAN where it is designed to go. "behold, how do i find a real bible". Good question. Find a real one here. Look at 1 Timothy 3:16..... Does it say "he" or "the one"..........vs......"GOD was manifested in the flesh? If it says "God" then look for one...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    "present your body as a living sacrifice, to God, which is your reasonable service". Why do you do that for God? Because God has taken the blood and death of Jesus and applied it to the Believer which forgives all their sin, FOREVER. So, isn't it REASONABLE.....( that if God has done this for...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    What is this theological ????? = nonsense?
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    If and when you get rid of that NIV, and if you will study those verses i showed you, then you can come to the knowledge of the Truth regarding "law" vs "Grace". Ok then.
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    @simplefaith1 If you are under the law, there are 2 reasons.. 1.) you are not a Christian Yet.........you are religious but lost......You are not born again, yet. 2.) You are a Christian, but you are "fallen from Grace" and are "In the Flesh" which is why you are worried about sin and LAW.
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    I can teach you, but i can't understand it for you. Get rid of your NIV. And go here.. for a while. Romans 3:21-28 Hebrews 13:9 2 Corinthians 5:19 John 3:17 Romans 4:8 @simplefaith1 , you have to learn that SIN has been dealt with by Jesus on the Cross of Christ., and once you do...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Here is what Christ had done with what you dont understand and referred to as "HOLY" "Christ is the END of the LAW..for Righteousness, to everyone who Believes". "Christ has redeemed the born again, from the = CURSE of the LAW".. So, when you put yourself under the law, you make the Cross...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Yes, i know the verse. And once again, You have John and you have Paul. John Teaches in 1 John 3:9 that the born again can't sin. Yet, "if you sin against the Brethren".... And yet, you can't sin, unless you are under the law, and no CHRISTian is under the law. "where there is no law...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Yes, i know the verse., and to explain it, is going to be hard for you to understand, because you are not grounded in Grace, or acquainted with the principle of "justification by Faith", and "not under the law, but under Grace".. And its more then just that... also... Try to see this...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Right. "Them".. or "Persons".. See that? There is a REASON that the KJV does not try to teach that the "them" is a CHRISTIAN, while the NIV does. So, as i said... get rid of that Trash "book". Let me show you something.. and not just you. If you read Paul's 13 Epistles.. he never once...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Get rid of your NIV., as it wont allow you to learn. It'll prevent it. So, we can have a discussion, but not if you use that dumpster food.
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Get rid of your NIV as its a corrupted piece of Trash and will ruin your faith and remove any chance you'll ever learn correct NT Pauline Theology. Get a REAL bible that says "those persons" or people. Get rid of your NIV.
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Jesus's Cross is God's Sacrifice for All your sin. Jesus is the "one time ETERNAL SACRIFICE.. for sin".. If He has not paid for yours, @Rightglory , then you will when you die. Don't do that.
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    Sin Consciousness : is the Carnal Mind = wrong Belief

    - Reader, Paul teaches (the born again).... that "there is now no condemnation to those who are IN Christ"..... Condemnation is not of God, its of SELF, or its of the Devil., or both. Paul teaches this... = ""Use not your LIBERTY, for an occasion ... to the flesh""... 1..) Liberty ...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Im going to write a Thread as your answer @simplefaith1 , and post it. Let me write if for you, first. Title : "sin consciousness" is the carnal mind, that manifests as wrong belief. Reader, Paul teaches (the born again).... that "there is now no condemnation to those who are IN...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    A Covenant is OFFERED by the one who Created it. The other party "receives it"... And in the case of the "New Covenant", its offered as "THE GIFT of Salvation" and "the GIFT of Righteousness" You don't WORK for a "Gift" @Wynona Real Theologians, teach that Jesus is your Salvation. That's...
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    Are Pastor's Salaries Biblical?

    They are working. @Wynona They are getting your sermon ready. They then have to deliver it 2x on Sunday and once on Wed. (in most cases). They are managing the Deacons, and all of the "officers of the Church". They are managing all the "church" Bills that are due, each month. They council...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Reader, We can't stop being the Child of our Parents, based on "bad behavior"... And God took us while we were "yet sinners"... and we became a Son/Daughter of God...before we ever did one good work for Him, and in fact, all we brought to God was our LIFETIME OF SIN.. for Jesus to die for, so...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    If you believed what you wrote, you would not be confessing sin. @Rightglory As if the sin is ETERNALLY dealt with by JESUS on the Cross...., then "confessing it" to get it dealt with AGAIN..., isn't very smart, but it certainly is very Religious. Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have...