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The only "legalist" in that day are the only legalist of today....Judaizers and those that want to mix Christianity with Judaism. What you preach is about the only perverted Gospel I hear here. Paul continually supported morals and reprimand those of poor morals. The only legalists he opposed...

Part of learning how to apply Christianity is to putting the "no one is good" thing in its place. No, we are not good like God. But there are a lot of good Christians and Christ expects you to be good. What would be the alternative! Ironic as it is the whole "no one is good" thing has been used...

A God that did all that for you...no doubt. Sometimes people just think wrong. If you are a Christian, Satan has no voice. Self condemnation...it is an issue...sometimes goes back to wrong thinking. I can get into the effects of baptism. And then on the other hand Christ....a God....went...

You are very valuable....why else would a God allow Himself to be nailed to cross for you, if He did not think you were valuable.

Oh this is simple....the phrase does not occur in the oldest texts that we have available. You found this in the King James Version... 1611 ad? They did not have the most reliable sources. It is not in most other translations...not even the New King James Version. There is a whole lot of that.

It is enough for the disciple that he may become like his teacher, and the slave like his master. If they have called the head of the house Beelzebul, how much more will they insult the members of his household! Ya there are scriptures that make you scratch your head....You know there is a...

1st Corinthians 8:11-13 11 So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12 When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will...

No, nothing can be an excuse. You can take the scriptures and then you can consider the spirit of Christ, the spirit of scriptures, the spirit of Christianity. Then also the them of the storyline. There is no part of this that is going to promote sin or sinful lifestyles. Corinth had its...

To understand the concept of the style....you look at the topics, and the statements that they made at the extreme ends...both ends...the same person. You can see it in motion here where people debate and throw scriptures at each other from the same person that seem to contradict each other. It...

Well Paul was a Brainiac. Got to read carefully. But the main ingredient is understanding the religious literary style. Paul is not the only one that used it....Christ...Peter...John....all used it. The questions is, can you understand the scriptures without understanding that style. Probably...

why not just accept each other's viewpoints as each person trying their best to bear good fruit and live lives in Christ and pleasing in sight to the Lord? The whole sweetness of this I get... That is not how debates go. That is not even how discussions go. Everybody has the right to believe...

Then I assume you will not be sinning a lot.

The devil speaks a subtle language....you can eat the fruit, you will not die....you can sin all you want and still go to heaven. The words are there Precious blood of Christ Blessed Good Shepherd Grace Abundant life glorifies... But still the message is trying to get people to believe that...

I am assuming that you know that being perfect and being perfected are two different things.

I am not suggesting high and mighty....be good and do good, the best you can. No we are the light of the world....you see this is all a new religious belief. If the early Christians took the attitude that there was something wrong with being good or trying to be good...history would have...

The Bible does say that. And if you think you can be perfect I support your effort in that regard but as you quoted, all fall short of the glory of God. The religious literary style of the New Testament is hard to master. Every person will talk to both ends of the extreme.

You are way off here. Christ is our example....are we to set our own example....poor character and sinful lifestyles....so that people look at Christians and thing....their God must be the God of evil. Example....no pride....no boast. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least...

Salutations Victory... There is no show. There is no prize. We cannot be prefect. Good does not get you to heaven just what the followers of Christ do. I hate to bring up logic but....the followers of a good and perfect God....would they attempt to obey, would they attempt to be good. good...

Not at all.

All cool. We can get back at it later....thanks